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104. No it is not and I personally know that for a fact from someone who DID live under the stasi.

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:55 AM

Jul 2013

Amazingly we just found out that Merkel, in Germany, who has been ACTING quite upset about the surveillance of not just Americans but of Europeans also, has just been exposed in the latest revelations of cooperating with the US Surveillance program on Germans.

If YOU think this comparison is an insult, you need to listen to what those who lived under the Stasi in Germany today have to say.

It is in fact an insult for YOU to diminish the fears those people have considering many remember how it all began, or were told about it by their parents and grandparents.

Get used to the comparison now that these latest revelations in Germany have brought back some truly frightening memories to those in that part of the world who know a lot more about it than we do.

And considering Merkel's own background? An East German about whom there have been rumors re her own father and the Stasi? This is RECENT history, within living memory for a large part of the world.

It is indeed a huge insult to dismiss these comparisons. In fact in Europe, from those who remember, it is now being said the Stasi would be envious of this program.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 OP

K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #1

We did raise this ahem... problem, with Congresswoman Davis nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #4

Oh, geez, back with the STASI railsback Jul 2013 #2

You *DO* realize this is at ComicCon Aerows Jul 2013 #174

The Obama STASI spies on everyone railsback Jul 2013 #181

I think that you need Aerows Jul 2013 #183

Comparing this to the Stasi is offensive to anyone whose ever lived under the Stasi. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #3

So let me see nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #5

I don't have to agree with surveillance or hyperbole. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #6

what's offensive is universal surveillance reminiscent of the stasi. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #9

+1 000 000 000 for your excellent smackdown of the Stasi apologist. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #18

Stasi apologist?! You guys are hilarious. I'm Russian. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #24

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #34

No comrade, this "police state" lunatic rhetoric ONLY holds water.... pasto76 Jul 2013 #37

Well, then, that certainly explains a lot about your charming personality. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #62

Don't know what that means. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #75

Hey, that's much better. Far less hyperbole, more nuance. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #22

Amen. Aerows Jul 2013 #176

You got the photos there, go argue with them nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #10

Those guys don't have a nefarious plan, they're just doing their jobs. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #20

All last a sensible post in this thread of ridiculous hyperbole. n/t FSogol Jul 2013 #25

Really? So you think San Diego PD and Harbor Police nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #26

They were caught by surveillance cameras on Lord & Taylor. Also, JaneyVee Jul 2013 #30

Look at the photo of those guys IN UNIFORM nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #31

40 years ago at the county fair questionseverything Jul 2013 #131

Compare and contrast nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #141

"...they're just doing their jobs." Most brutish employees of the State are. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #27

We talked to the local PD IC nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #29

Its Comic Con, what on earth were you protesting? 7962 Jul 2013 #108

I wasn't. We were there as *press* doing out jobs. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #120

Good lord, you had your hands full! 7962 Jul 2013 #154

"...they're just doing their jobs." RetroLounge Jul 2013 #35

Of course they are "just doing their jobs". And if their "jobs" requires they spy on rhett o rick Jul 2013 #39

Hate the ideology, not the workers just earning a paycheck. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #74

Totally disagree. Morality should win out over a paycheck. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #79

Equating torture to some guy on the beat earning a paycheck is a stretch. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #82

When you said, "those guys" I understood it to mean those guys spying on us. The specific guys rhett o rick Jul 2013 #85

the stasi had foot soldiers too. without foot soldiers the machine stops. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Jul 2013 #72

What is offensive is the government that the taxpayers matthews Jul 2013 #19

If something were to happen at Comicon those guys would be JaneyVee Jul 2013 #21

"If something were to happen...." The Universal Excuse for the Surveillance State. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #28

bullshit. Its called responsible management pasto76 Jul 2013 #43

Across the street, the ambulance is staged 30 seconds from it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #52

Blah de blah blah. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #161

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas. nt matthews Jul 2013 #56

More to the point, why attack or detract-from someone's post 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #44

My wife lived under the Stasi... defacto7 Jul 2013 #49

And those regimes didn't have sophisticated face recognition technology BlueStreak Jul 2013 #38

BINGO nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #41

"Illegal" is such a harsh word BlueStreak Jul 2013 #63

We still have time nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #64

I can't remember the name of the program, but I read somewhere that govt. agencies were tapping... rwsanders Jul 2013 #167

Well, that's proof positive the DHS isn't tapping into CCTV Brother Buzz Jul 2013 #184

No, what's offensive is the shredding of our former Constitutional protections, and the rampant... villager Jul 2013 #7

+ My Household. n/t truedelphi Jul 2013 #135

It's not offensive to me and some of the people I know. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #13

It reminds me a lot of the dictablanda I grew up under nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #16

Now, now! You know that those of us that have actually experienced these things hobbit709 Jul 2013 #17

Since Nine Eleven, I have known at least truedelphi Jul 2013 #136

Just thought you'd stop by with a few nice words for the OP. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #32

Well there is this famous line from a certain movie nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #33

Exactly. Because we have to arrive at our destination... ret5hd Jul 2013 #36

Never lived under the Stasi lofty1 Jul 2013 #61

No it is not and I personally know that for a fact from someone who DID live under the stasi. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #104

Oh give me a fucking break. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #107

No matter how bad it gets, some will still say "their not like the gestapo at all, rwsanders Jul 2013 #168

Pretty much Aerows Jul 2013 #178

The analogy is apt. Universal surveillance is the common characteristic. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #124

Sticking your head in the sand is also offensive. nt Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #132

We are at the very beginning of what is being planned. Scoff if you want to - truedelphi Jul 2013 #134

A few years back I brained stormed a book plot with my writing partner... Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #8

They had adds for SHIELD throughout nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #11

Cool Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #12

Do not ask me, we were chasing other things such as John Lewis nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #15

A few more years on this trajectory and those story notes could earn you a visit BlueStreak Jul 2013 #40

Terrorists know better than to mess with the nerds. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #42

One of the projected heroes Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #57

What was the motivation for detonating a device at the Boston Marathon? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2013 #65

k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #14

K&R 99Forever Jul 2013 #23

This is what to expect...... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #45

"They" think they are the "Cool Dudes." KoKo Jul 2013 #46

The Stasi? treestar Jul 2013 #47

look closer limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #97

Maybe. The one on the right says "police" and has a different insignia treestar Jul 2013 #111

Trying to understand what your point is but I can't figure out what is the point of your post. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #114

I'm sort of laughing at the OP treestar Jul 2013 #116

Right, and none of that would ever be necessary because there would never be a situation pnwmom Jul 2013 #48

Several points nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #54

the person with the camera could be a member of the DU photo group treestar Jul 2013 #88

something to keep in mind lofty1 Jul 2013 #80

Time to resurrect the term "Jarheads". Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #50

Is this comic con? Agschmid Jul 2013 #51

The privacy release to comic con and news media nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #53

You have more energy and patience than I ever would trying to point out the simply obvious rwsanders Jul 2013 #55

Hey when you get the photos they still argue nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #58

No it's a case of "I don't understand your OP"... Agschmid Jul 2013 #68

My eyes are open... Agschmid Jul 2013 #69

No I get the 4th amendment... Agschmid Jul 2013 #67

good bye nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #77

Makes total sense for you to ignore someone... Agschmid Jul 2013 #81

LOL. I was going to ask the OP wtf she was talking about, then remembered... Hekate Jul 2013 #86

Thanks... Agschmid Jul 2013 #87

Well done! Hekate Jul 2013 #90

That might explain why the posts get loonier and loonier treestar Jul 2013 #121

you simply pointed out truth sad-cafe Jul 2013 #102

nothing new I've been photographing the photogaraphers for years olddots Jul 2013 #59

They tried to get people not to photograph them nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #60

Seems like they did not try very hard... Agschmid Jul 2013 #70

i dont get it Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #66

Welcome to the CT/woo section. Agschmid Jul 2013 #71

huh? Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #76

Ok... Agschmid Jul 2013 #78

much obliged Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #83

Transmitter? The guy with the garden hat, white gloves (eczema?), big camera? Viewfinder? Hekate Jul 2013 #89

i see Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #92

"the complexity of the world around her!" treestar Jul 2013 #122

i am all but positive i am still on ignore ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #147

I wanna know why someone thinks a belt buckle is a D-ring carabiner? FSogol Jul 2013 #118

Love the pics Nadin! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #73

One of them is mine nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #94

I liked your OP. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #95

I know, did not intend to sound brash nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #98

I know. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #99

So let me get this straight... Dreamer Tatum Jul 2013 #84

Shorter OP: some dude wore a funny hat to Comic-Con, which proves that democracy is dead. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #91

+1 n/t Agschmid Jul 2013 #93

She has many sycophants, apparently. LordGlenconner Jul 2013 #153

+1 n/t X_Digger Jul 2013 #96

+1000 n/t zappaman Jul 2013 #100

+100000000000000000000000 sad-cafe Jul 2013 #103

Amen: Crap like this makes DU dumber. FSogol Jul 2013 #109

Some have to feel they are in the middle of great historical drama! treestar Jul 2013 #112

At least they weren't North Koreans or Cancer-causing Wind Turbines. FSogol Jul 2013 #115

.... treestar Jul 2013 #117

Kim Jong Un wouldn't cancel Comic Con, but all the comics would be about him. FSogol Jul 2013 #119

Just got back from a work out and visit to convenience store treestar Jul 2013 #130

During lunch, over on route 50 by the circle, there was a member of the Stasi FSogol Jul 2013 #133

What's next? LordGlenconner Jul 2013 #155

Oh, she already did the "Your TV is watching You" one. A couple of months DevonRex Jul 2013 #172

The OP'er has in fact opined that they ARE watching us through our tellys�. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #175

i was waiting for 6 ft of hail myself... nt ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #148

+1000 Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #123

Yes. Posts like this make me miss the unrec button. intheflow Jul 2013 #125

What's hilarious is that she's surreptitiously taking photos of a crowd and private citizens, geek tragedy Jul 2013 #126

.. intheflow Jul 2013 #127

bingo Kali Jul 2013 #156

This and Skidmore Jul 2013 #163

You are absolutely KILLING this thread. THREAD is now OVER Number23 Jul 2013 #169

Valid. Agschmid Jul 2013 #170

Probably a wind turbine supporter to boot! Rex Jul 2013 #137

hahahahahaha Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #139

k&r avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #101

To start with, them boys ain't right Mopar151 Jul 2013 #105

You have to admit GObamaGO Jul 2013 #106

Standard issue for SD lifeguards nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #113

Nadin - how did attendees know that you weren't an undercover cop? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #110

The Stasi didn't need to film. Progressive dog Jul 2013 #128

Forgive me, I am often slow LordGlenconner Jul 2013 #138

Who knows Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #140

It was not denied nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #142

What was not denied? LordGlenconner Jul 2013 #144

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #145

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #146

LordGlenconner... ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #149

Thanks for the clarification LordGlenconner Jul 2013 #150

hey! you made it... ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #160

You go personal...you go to ignore. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #151

Well ta-ta LordGlenconner Jul 2013 #152

You have indeed been granted a boon in that you'll not be addressed DevonRex Jul 2013 #157

hell I actually AGREE with her sometimes Kali Jul 2013 #164

I have on a couple of specific things. But i won't tolerate the rudeness or DevonRex Jul 2013 #165

well she just got locked out of this thread Kali Jul 2013 #166

I can't believe the hosts voted to leave it... Agschmid Jul 2013 #171

The Stasi? Really Nadin. There is security at every large event. MineralMan Jul 2013 #143

After the Boston Bombing, who the fuck needs SECURITY, RIGHT NADIN?????? DevonRex Jul 2013 #158

but you know full-well those Stasi were there to photograph all ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #159

Yeah! I bet they had super duper implant shots to put GPS in people's skin. DevonRex Jul 2013 #162

Is that at ComicCon? Aerows Jul 2013 #173

Yes it is. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #177

Well let's just bash Aerows Jul 2013 #179

I wasn.t bashing it. I liked the OP. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #180

Well, my nerdiness came out then :D Aerows Jul 2013 #182