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60. To REC, ... or Not?

Sat Dec 17, 2011, 05:32 PM

Dec 2011

I was under no illusion that I was voting for "Greatness".
Obama WAS my 2nd to last choice among ALL the Candidates,
but I DID believe that he would provide some impetus for "CHANGE",
in THAT belief, I WAS disappointed.

He never even bothered to show up for the fight on his Campaign Promises to the Working Class:
EFCA,
the re-negotiation of NAFTA,
the "comfortable Shoes",
the Public Option,
ending the Bush tax Cuts

..I could go on, but why?

President Obama had the opportunity for Greatness:
[font size=5]Obama's Army, Jan. 21, 2009[/font]

[font size=5]"Oh, What could have been."[/font]

...but he declined the challenge,
and instead sought "Bi-partisan Consensus".
Mediocrity WAS his choice.

He coulda been a Contender!

After reading the replies on this thread,
I will go back and give it a Rec.

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Mr. President, many of us thought we were voting for greatness. Instead, we got you. [View all] Cyrano Dec 2011 OP

Kick & Rec! jannyk Dec 2011 #1

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #89

get the money out of politics. stonecutter357 Dec 2011 #102

What a crock of crap! olegramps Dec 2011 #231

Cyrano speaks for me, except for that hold your nose and vote part Vincardog Dec 2011 #238

++++++ well said. Peregrine Took Dec 2011 #248

He didn't give you everything you wanted, when you wanted it. Life is like that, sometime. MADem Dec 2011 #2

True, Obama's magic wand must be in the shop for repairs. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #5

What if he didn't give Cyrano ANYTHING he wanted. tblue Dec 2011 #18

Then I would say let's judge him on at least a full term, possibly 2, maybe he WILL get things FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #27

We gave him a Democratic majority in 2009/2010, that may have been his only decent chance. eomer Dec 2011 #222

So lets concentrate on winning back the House. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #234

Actually we need to make more headway at the state level of government cstanleytech Dec 2011 #241

I'd say he's terribly hard to please, then. MADem Dec 2011 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Dec 2011 #65

You are free to go where your conscience takes you. MADem Dec 2011 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Dec 2011 #71

As I said, you're free to go where your conscience takes you. nt MADem Dec 2011 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Dec 2011 #164

You have one of those nice days, now. nt MADem Dec 2011 #184

It's like this for me. stillwaiting Dec 2011 #62

Hear, hear to you! emcguffie Dec 2011 #161

Hi, Cuz! I actually think Obama has done better than you think, though tblue37 Dec 2011 #123

excellent post SemperEadem Dec 2011 #197

Excellent post, tblue MissDeeds Dec 2011 #217

I wanted him to dump the Patriot Act. Is that too much to ask? The republicons didnt force him to rhett o rick Dec 2011 #121

Apparently his National Security Staff continues to find some utility in it. MADem Dec 2011 #159

The time is way past for giving a shit what Republicans think. RUMMYisFROSTED Dec 2011 #223

I didn't list that as a cause, simply as an effect. MADem Dec 2011 #271

The only info they have that "we" don't have is who the players are. RUMMYisFROSTED Dec 2011 #275

Not entirely. nt MADem Dec 2011 #276

You don't have to serve on the "National Security" staff to understand handing out $$$. RUMMYisFROSTED Dec 2011 #290

It helps to have access to classified material when making decisions. MADem Dec 2011 #291

Of course his admin would find it's far reaching powers useful. But it violates the rhett o rick Dec 2011 #262

Totally agree. spicegal Dec 2011 #210

Well you'll be happy to know ooglymoogly Dec 2011 #252

Well, all I will say is that I disagree with your POV. Beyond that, there's little point in debate, MADem Dec 2011 #272

True but he's also Phlem Dec 2011 #265

Greatest disappointment in American history?! Congress thanks you for letting them off the hook. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #3

Do Nothing Congress otohara Dec 2011 #53

If you think, for a second, that every US senator, and many representatives, too, don't wake up each MADem Dec 2011 #274

Well, I must be a great deal older than you are. emcguffie Dec 2011 #163

Obama is NOT a dictator. tabatha Dec 2011 #4

No, anger should be channeled toward the people who voted for LibDemAlways Dec 2011 #108

I also blame the public. Maccagirl Dec 2011 #133

Majority Rules? fasttense Dec 2011 #196

Did he support extension of domestic spying? Cant blame that on Congress. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #122

Here's what ProSense Dec 2011 #6

Thanks for this reminder Tanelorn Dec 2011 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Dec 2011 #41

This web site would be absolute and utter rubbish without you Number23 Dec 2011 #77

And I could not agree more. polmaven Dec 2011 #80

Well, At the very least quakerboy Dec 2011 #186

Yep without fail. nt SammyWinstonJack Dec 2011 #250

lawl Rex Dec 2011 #203

+10000 to that, Number23. CakeGrrl Dec 2011 #237

Obama is not Adlai Stephenson or Paul Wellstone. He is the president who ran on the middle The Wielding Truth Dec 2011 #172

The only people he didn't listen to, or give a seat at the table to during the HC debacle, were sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #294

You and I both know you are correct. Yet until there is someone else better to run this country I The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #295

Hey, that would be great, IF... MattSh Dec 2011 #221

So the argument isn't that he's not great... BklnDem75 Dec 2011 #225

Why were you voting for greatness? treestar Dec 2011 #7

Veto? The public option was never an option. Never even mentioned. immoderate Dec 2011 #150

Don't do this sort of thing again unless asjr Dec 2011 #8

That post is an argument for being able to rec individual posts--A++++ for you! MADem Dec 2011 #9

Obama has been so disappointing, and I was one of his earliest supporters Odin2005 Dec 2011 #10

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2011 #15

Thanks! Odin2005 Dec 2011 #25

Odin2005, have you watched any of the Repuke debates yet? I ask, b/c I watched coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #44

I try not to watch national political debates because nowadays... Odin2005 Dec 2011 #128

Well, I can't tell you what to do, but I think if you watched one of these Repuke coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #129

And stabbed. And stabbed, stabbed, and stabbed again. Hawkowl Dec 2011 #213

I never thought I'd say I miss the unrec option lunatica Dec 2011 #11

+++! polmaven Dec 2011 #82

Ditto housewolf Dec 2011 #107

It's great to be able to see who rec's this kind of stuff. jaxx Dec 2011 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Dec 2011 #43

What you said! Fuddnik Dec 2011 #104

Me, too. Peregrine Took Dec 2011 #251

Damn straight! golddigger Dec 2011 #48

LOL You made me look. Kahuna Dec 2011 #114

"Reads like a Who's Who." You got that right Number23 Dec 2011 #130

Your little smile face at the end does not negate your crassness HangOnKids Dec 2011 #148

Could you stalk someone that actually cares about your opinion? Number23 Dec 2011 #168

Stalking? Don't flatter yourself. n/t HangOnKids Dec 2011 #175

just curious, could you explain the Malcom X avatar? if you're suggesting he's picking his ass certainot Dec 2011 #243

Like this swills rec list? Puglover Dec 2011 #259

Oh, how I loved that thread Number23 Dec 2011 #273

Ooops, thanks for the reminder. Union Scribe Dec 2011 #153

A who's liberal. ozone_man Dec 2011 #227

Wow I was thinkin the same thing Puglover Dec 2011 #258

So sorry you feel that way shanti Jan 2012 #296

CAPITULATION will be how his administration is remembered. MrTriumph Dec 2011 #14

You must have amnesia. Please go back and review your middle school civics lessons and get a clue. RBInMaine Dec 2011 #91

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #233

Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad JoePhilly Dec 2011 #16

And all WE got was the most hyperbolic, poorly argued post of the year frazzled Dec 2011 #17

Yep. I keep checking in hoping things have changed nobodyspecial Dec 2011 #23

It's true: a lot of the sane people have left frazzled Dec 2011 #28

This used to be an awesome place nobodyspecial Dec 2011 #38

I agree in general with the thrust of your post, but I think you are positing a false coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #50

You'd better not EVER leave Number23 Dec 2011 #94

Bullfeathers! juajen Dec 2011 #105

"It's like living in a community of mad people who have lost their grip on reality." Number23 Dec 2011 #90

just so we can say we shared an honest laugh together SwampG8r Dec 2011 #140

Rock The House Swamp HangOnKids Dec 2011 #151

Why not? Number23 Dec 2011 #166

ok then tonight before 11 pm est SwampG8r Dec 2011 #230

sometimes it feels like people here will approve of ANYTHING Skittles Dec 2011 #149

There Is A Thread Or Two Up Above HangOnKids Dec 2011 #152

lol You mad 'cause nobody's probably ever said that about you? Number23 Dec 2011 #167

Did I say I was mad? HangOnKids Dec 2011 #174

Yes because your "get a room" comment didn't express any type of emotion Number23 Dec 2011 #177

THAT'S ANOTHER THING Skittles Dec 2011 #181

AND YOU WouLD KNoW ABOUT THat! Number23 Dec 2011 #189

I would Skittles Dec 2011 #277

Yes, we've all seen the efforts of your "training" Number23 Dec 2011 #278

LOL Skittles Dec 2011 #280

Backatacha, dollface! Number23 Dec 2011 #281

it is very disturbing Skittles Dec 2011 #180

I think this original poster is having a temper tantrum and needs a cookie and blanket. Boo Hoo... RBInMaine Dec 2011 #92

Are you talking about your OP? n/t HangOnKids Dec 2011 #155

So true. jefferson_dem Dec 2011 #211

I could not agree more... ermasdaughter Dec 2011 #215

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Dec 2011 #19

Change to Republicans? nobodyspecial Dec 2011 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Dec 2011 #45

Who? nobodyspecial Dec 2011 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Dec 2011 #66

You keep telling yourself that nobodyspecial Dec 2011 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Dec 2011 #72

And we can make that happen polmaven Dec 2011 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Dec 2011 #86

Your recollection is correct.. polmaven Dec 2011 #214

Talk about living in fantasy land Doctor_J Dec 2011 #111

I don't care who you put into office Zalatix Dec 2011 #20

Oh, what a refreshing post! +1111111111! BeHereNow Dec 2011 #54

+ a Brazillion! FirstLight Dec 2011 #267

So go vote for Ron Paul samplegirl Dec 2011 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Dec 2011 #46

I assume that is what you all are saying and will do. Control-Z Dec 2011 #55

Did you not even read the first line of the OP? The first damn line. nt Union Scribe Dec 2011 #143

Actually, I did. Control-Z Dec 2011 #145

it's called the thinking of simple minds Skittles Dec 2011 #182

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Dec 2011 #201

Horse-shit...... quickesst Dec 2011 #22

We voted for someone. sendero Dec 2011 #73

It took you this long? quickesst Dec 2011 #195

Epic! Kahuna Dec 2011 #112

Does the laughing emoticon make you feel powerful? HangOnKids Dec 2011 #162

Don't worry about how I feel. Just like I don't worry aboiut how you feel...in the least. Kahuna Dec 2011 #228

I voted for greatness and that is what I got jpak Dec 2011 #26

I could think of WAAAY more disappointing things in American history. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #29

This sh&*% is getting so old. This place is really becoming disgusting.... monmouth Dec 2011 #30

Yeah this what my republican friends all say too..... samplegirl Dec 2011 #31

That tends to happen when expectations are beyond unrealistic BklnDem75 Dec 2011 #32

No, I didn't expect him to fly. Cyrano Dec 2011 #42

From what I see... BklnDem75 Dec 2011 #125

You expect him to be what you claim to hate. A unitary executive. +1000000 nt MADem Dec 2011 #185

Like Bill Clinton? JohnnyRingo Dec 2011 #244

You can't be serious BeyondGeography Dec 2011 #33

I didn't vote for 'greatness.' madamesilverspurs Dec 2011 #34

Very well put. nobodyspecial Dec 2011 #39

An excellent post emulatorloo Dec 2011 #59

Why don't we Democrats take "Yes we can" seriously? Zalatix Dec 2011 #144

Somebody Has Eaten Too Many Cheerios Today! n/t HangOnKids Dec 2011 #165

wish I could recommend this post a thousand times over SemperEadem Dec 2011 #204

I wasn't looking for greatness. Just someone who would golddigger Dec 2011 #36

Yeah, yeah, yeah....we've heard it all before graywarrior Dec 2011 #37

Voting for "greatness?" ElboRuum Dec 2011 #40

YUP .... I used to make fun of right wingers who claimed that the left thought Obama was ... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #64

republican lite gives me the runs unionworks Dec 2011 #47

many of us were not "enamored" to the point of believing in a whole other reality ... zbdent Dec 2011 #49

There is no magic wand with capitalism... Modern_Matthew Dec 2011 #51

One could accuse you of ungratefulness and selfishness if all you see is "crumbs". great white snark Dec 2011 #56

Well said! nt jimlup Dec 2011 #57

I quit reading after you said you were voting for him next year. The rest is just vitriol. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #58

To REC, ... or Not? bvar22 Dec 2011 #60

Beautiful gael Dec 2011 #99

Nonsense. That army deserted in 2010. They believed their job as citizens was Kahuna Dec 2011 #110

The ARMY deserted? bvar22 Dec 2011 #116

Ha ha.. An army without a leader. Don't make me laugh. Kahuna Dec 2011 #202

Just like guitar solos ended the Viet Nam war. JohnnyRingo Dec 2011 #246

That's true One of the 99 Dec 2011 #120

So true. And now they have ten times more to complain about.. Kahuna Dec 2011 #206

No. bvar22 Dec 2011 #242

Where were the people during the teabagger summer? One of the 99 Dec 2011 #282

I didn't have particularly high hopes for him ChadwickHenryWard Dec 2011 #61

Well, with the help of you and all the others here nobodyspecial Dec 2011 #69

What's the difference? ChadwickHenryWard Dec 2011 #113

If the left gets its act together we can kick the gop to the curb next November. nt Kahuna Dec 2011 #207

Do you think you were mislead by marketing or hopefulness? Islandlife Dec 2011 #63

I'd have settled for Average. Give me an average man or woman as President kenny blankenship Dec 2011 #70

So you're blaming Obama for YOUR unreleastic expectations. randome Dec 2011 #74

"Have you no conscience? Have you no decency? Have you no sense of self-betrayal?" Number23 Dec 2011 #75

Some rose-colored glasses last a long time. FunMe Dec 2011 #135

I'm sorry, is this supposed to mean something? Number23 Dec 2011 #136

What It Means You Clearly Don't Want To Get HangOnKids Dec 2011 #169

Do I know you or is there a reason you keep responding to me? Number23 Dec 2011 #171

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #176

Because I like playing with trolls that probably won't be around for too much longer? Number23 Dec 2011 #178

Two words come to mind: FOX *NEWS* Ship of Fools Dec 2011 #76

Interesting post quinnox Dec 2011 #78

Would ProSense Dec 2011 #79

Hysterics seems to be the order of the day BklnDem75 Dec 2011 #229

You voted for "greatness?" That's odd. I voted for president. AtomicKitten Dec 2011 #81

+1 n/t tammywammy Dec 2011 #127

what bald faced b.s. Whisp Dec 2011 #83

He won't hear this and even laylah Dec 2011 #84

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #88

Sorry that they didn't issue him a magic wand and a superman suit. RBInMaine Dec 2011 #87

Please grow up before you post anymore tantrums. Now go get some milk and cookies. RBInMaine Dec 2011 #93

You are a real piece of work. laylah Dec 2011 #205

I wish you'd been more realistic bigtree Dec 2011 #95

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #96

Cyrano, my thanks gael Dec 2011 #97

dividing the vote will have enormous consequences nobodyspecial Dec 2011 #103

You REALLY need to work on your punctuation and spelling. n/t HCE SuiGeneris Dec 2011 #146

very unlikely, in a system so reliant on contributions from the wealthiest, themadstork Dec 2011 #98

Garbage. n/t Scurrilous Dec 2011 #100

Yep, a McCain presidency would've been much better Maine-i-acs Dec 2011 #101

Yeah, a McCain presidency would have been awful. JoeyT Dec 2011 #142

The problem isn't with the president. It's with the citizens who think they've Kahuna Dec 2011 #106

Cry me a FREA-KIN' river! DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 #109

I see a lot of people are still pining for Hugo Chavez. nt Kahuna Dec 2011 #115

KandR Zhade Dec 2011 #117

Gotta love people who vainly attempt to talk for everyone else. whistler162 Dec 2011 #118

+1 dionysus Dec 2011 #156

Universal health care was never on the table. One of the 99 Dec 2011 #119

the people on this thread who try to say crap about wanting a pony are = to Republicans StarsInHerHair Dec 2011 #124

as long as there is no organized opposition to the RW radio monopoly most of your complaints are certainot Dec 2011 #126

Hopefully fewer people allow vauge catch phrases and fuzzy imagery to substitute for critical Skip Intro Dec 2011 #131

We'll have to elect a traditional progressive Democrat to get greatness. Zorra Dec 2011 #132

WOW! Battered wife syndrome. FunMe Dec 2011 #134

I think you've managed to put your finger on what is wrong with the attitude treestar Dec 2011 #187

"battered spouse syndrome" is a metaphor -- people really do know they're not voting for spouses... nashville_brook Dec 2011 #240

But there is no one on one relationship treestar Dec 2011 #255

"greatest disappointments in American history" Yawn. Another hysterical, hyperbolic anti-Obama rant. NYC Liberal Dec 2011 #137

"greatest disappointments in American history" ProSense Dec 2011 #141

Obama short coming Shaky Dec 2011 #138

I voted someone who would do what he promised to do. JoeyT Dec 2011 #139

Of Obama's Campaign Promises (the ones being tracked) so far 159 have been KEPT. Tx4obama Dec 2011 #147

"one of the greatest disappointments in American history. " dionysus Dec 2011 #154

Honestly RZM Dec 2011 #157

thank you. a post of clarity. dionysus Dec 2011 #179

Your recklessly realistic (and very smart) take on things Dewey Finn Dec 2011 #183

Thanks! n/t RZM Dec 2011 #256

After 8 years of what ohheckyeah Dec 2011 #160

With great regret, I have to agree with this. abq e streeter Dec 2011 #170

How about if he gets elected he once, just ONCE, does something he SAYS he will do... truebrit71 Dec 2011 #173

he said he'd get rid of DADT Whisp Dec 2011 #190

How about that time he told the Republicans to screw off when they wanted GM to fail? JohnnyRingo Dec 2011 #193

Notice what's missing in the bottom photo compared to the top one. HughBeaumont Dec 2011 #216

Oblivious much? The Doctor. Dec 2011 #199

*blows fart Whisp Dec 2011 #188

Cyrano holds his nose. . . Whisp Dec 2011 #191

Would you mind if I post this in Free Republic? JohnnyRingo Dec 2011 #192

That's a sure way The Doctor. Dec 2011 #200

You do not have my permission to post this on Free Republic. Cyrano Dec 2011 #219

I had "Hoped" for much better with Obama, however I am not terribly surprised by the lack of Sherman A1 Dec 2011 #194

"I will hold my nose and vote for you next year. My only other choice is to vote for some brain- The Doctor. Dec 2011 #198

Please Botany Dec 2011 #208

"I will hold my nose and vote for you next year." jefferson_dem Dec 2011 #209

Indeed. JTFrog Dec 2011 #232

Yep. CakeGrrl Dec 2011 #263

K&R. ScottLand Dec 2011 #212

K & R. HughBeaumont Dec 2011 #218

thanks hugh newspeak Dec 2011 #249

You're assuming he can do anything against this system - TBF Dec 2011 #220

+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Dec 2011 #224

Kick & Rec X 100 COLGATE4 Dec 2011 #226

Integrity sucks, huh? tavalon Dec 2011 #235

"If he were a King he might have had more luck?" Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2011 #236

wow... the nastiness from the most loyal Obama supporters fascisthunter Dec 2011 #239

I've read all of the 200+ responses to my original post. Cyrano Dec 2011 #245

I voted for Obama because he was a better choice than McCain-Palin. I chose well. aikoaiko Dec 2011 #247

It isn't about what he gives us - consider what he takes away scentopine Dec 2011 #253

I agree with your entire post, scentopine. And our choice next year is to vote for bad or worse. Cyrano Dec 2011 #268

I voted for someone else, or so I thought 4dsc Dec 2011 #254

Thank for a well thought out and point on article! Could not agree more! Yon_Yonson Dec 2011 #257

You are about to see greatness donttazemebro Dec 2011 #260

K&R (n/t) a2liberal Dec 2011 #261

K&R!..n/t whathehell Dec 2011 #264

I am wondering what exactly the OP expects Obama to do exactly when cstanleytech Dec 2011 #266

Historically, FDR had the Reprublican establishment against him. Cyrano Dec 2011 #269

And did they (the republicans) control congress and have a major news corporation like news corp cstanleytech Dec 2011 #283

+1 well said...nt ooglymoogly Jan 2012 #293

greatness? i voted for Obama. never thought he was 'great'. spanone Dec 2011 #270

That's a lot to hold, do you use both hands? Whisp Dec 2011 #279

I expect a hard right turn in store for the second term. NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #284

I don't believe this will happen. Cyrano Dec 2011 #285

Obama Brooklyns_Finest Dec 2011 #286

Trying to think of the best analogy here... bhikkhu Dec 2011 #287

K&R (nt) T S Justly Dec 2011 #288

Thats for the ignore list krawhitham Dec 2011 #289

No Sale. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #292

We either Puzzledtraveller Jan 2012 #297