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HiPointDem

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75. i have always wondered if japan was literally 'given' the small car market. i ran across an
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 02:14 PM
Jul 2013

academic website once that implied as much, i wish i had bookmarked it.

trade agreements are now 'forcing' market shares for different countries in a similar way (e.g. japan, which is/was self-sufficient in rice, must buy a certain amount of rice elsewhere because of trade agreements)

it just doesn't make sense that in a truly competitive market detroit would have ignored small cars and fuel efficiency in view of the oil crisis.

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Thank you for this bit of history, my dear Faygo Kid. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #1
Thank you, CaliforniaPeggy, for always being there for all on DU. Faygo Kid Jul 2013 #3
Gutting of Globalization liberalmike27 Jul 2013 #61
I agree, liberalmike27 JDPriestly Jul 2013 #69
i have always wondered if japan was literally 'given' the small car market. i ran across an HiPointDem Jul 2013 #75
Being a tad older than Faygo Kid ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #110
i'm old enough to remember that too. but appearances can be deceiving. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #111
I have lived in small towns and rural areas all of my life but the cities were something roguevalley Jul 2013 #26
Industry and national trade gave rise to cities. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #70
looks more like urban life is going to become a gated community, & suburbs the hell. suburban HiPointDem Jul 2013 #76
Depends on how you define "suburb." JDPriestly Jul 2013 #77
I think there's a standard definition for suburb though. I assume that's the one researchers are HiPointDem Jul 2013 #79
Interesting. I live close to the inner city. My area is being gentrified, but they want to build a JDPriestly Jul 2013 #83
i thought those cubicle apts were targeted at 20-somethings who don't want roommates & are HiPointDem Jul 2013 #98
K&R pscot Jul 2013 #2
I spent much of that time in Boston Warpy Jul 2013 #4
Well said. I forgot to mention Poletown in Detroit. Faygo Kid Jul 2013 #6
There were white elephants in Boston, too Warpy Jul 2013 #11
I wonder if those urban planners were disciples of Robert Moses ... eppur_se_muova Jul 2013 #99
What about the instances where that doesn't happen? Heywood J Jul 2013 #22
Those aren't going through dense, east coast city neighborhoods. Warpy Jul 2013 #25
You're correct. The last three are dense, (vaguely) midwest city neighborhoods in a city founded in Heywood J Jul 2013 #39
Why not have public transportation -- trains -- instead? JDPriestly Jul 2013 #71
That's not a blanket answer that works everywhere. ag_dude Jul 2013 #88
Trains are desirable to have as well, but trains only work in certain places. Heywood J Jul 2013 #95
the freeways are for us foreigners, at least partly hfojvt Jul 2013 #100
You have two ways to get to Windsor from Detroit navarth Jul 2013 #102
If you don't mind taking a slight detour... DissidentVoice Jul 2013 #103
That is more than a slight detour to get to Windsor navarth Jul 2013 #106
They are DissidentVoice Jul 2013 #109
Only thing that is different Warpy is that TO is not on the coast. ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #46
Wow! - 400, 401 - Don Valley Parkway, even snuck the CN Tower in there! ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #45
Great post. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #5
I was born 11 years after you and grew up 3-4 miles north of you. etherealtruth Jul 2013 #7
Hoping to complete the circle, and retire back to Michigan next year Faygo Kid Jul 2013 #9
The DIA is still incredibly wonderful! etherealtruth Jul 2013 #12
Love the Perry Hotel, and everything Petoskey Faygo Kid Jul 2013 #20
What a sad irony. surrealAmerican Jul 2013 #8
Detroit ain't "killed" - just struggling ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #49
My first car was Honda civic, great front wheel drive. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #57
Took the North American auto industry decades to catch on ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #58
I watched it happen. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #66
I saved some "Detroit Metal" though ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #89
Detroit was damaged by its economic model. Blanks Jul 2013 #63
What an amazing story DainBramaged Jul 2013 #10
Thanks, as well, from a fellow motorhead Mopar151 Jul 2013 #44
Speaking of pretty cars, this was mine ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #50
I Used to Drive liberalmike27 Jul 2013 #62
I lived in Southfield in the 50s... First Speaker Jul 2013 #13
Ah, the Chevy Vega. Brigid Jul 2013 #14
Quite honestly, I really liked my Vega. kwassa Jul 2013 #41
It could be worse, it could have been a Pinto! xtraxritical Jul 2013 #68
My ex brother in law still has his Pinto! 7962 Jul 2013 #104
I'll never forget the Pinto DissidentVoice Jul 2013 #114
I grew up in the western suburbs of Detroit. sufrommich Jul 2013 #15
Actually, that comes from people that knew Coleman well Faygo Kid Jul 2013 #18
East Town Theater, Cobo Hall, Joe Lewis Arena, etc. Holly_Hobby Jul 2013 #16
I grew up in the Flint area, and now live near Detroit. GreenEyedLefty Jul 2013 #17
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #19
China(mid70s): GHWBush, Prescott Bush, and Jackson Stephens plot with Chinese industrialists to move blm Jul 2013 #21
Googled the Bushes and Jackson Stephens... BornLooser Jul 2013 #34
It was the trade-off that paid off....for Bill. blm Jul 2013 #53
Brought into the fold. Vetted, controlled and owned by Bilderberg_Carlisle, etc. BornLooser Jul 2013 #87
Wait till you realize what a dog and pony show the whole Whitewater 'investigation' blm Jul 2013 #91
I've seen it and much more cover being given... BornLooser Jul 2013 #96
google stephens & the clintons as well. stephens (now jr) has tentacles in both parties. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #72
I'm reading the docs, statements, quotes, old news reports, etc., BornLooser Jul 2013 #85
I have: Global Fascism. Corporate empires ruled by powerful elite. blm Jul 2013 #90
For a long time now...keep 'em distracted with gadgets, gimmicks and guile. BornLooser Jul 2013 #97
Missed a big point...black people in Detroit pelister Jul 2013 #23
I think you missed my reference to that. And welcome to DU. Faygo Kid Jul 2013 #24
Some racism was brought up the Hillbilly Highway FarCenter Jul 2013 #31
Yup, racism deancr Jul 2013 #54
Once a Detroiter, always a Detroiter nt MrScorpio Jul 2013 #27
I tell people to go to a radom spot in Detroit and then in Windsor. It was intentional. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #28
Brilliant and thanks. Maybe low rent/artists will help bring it back? KittyWampus Jul 2013 #29
Thank you for the story! Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #30
The way the Detroit politicos are playing this is telling SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Jul 2013 #33
great thread, thanks ! nt steve2470 Jul 2013 #35
Interesting. Thanks for your insight. Arugula Latte Jul 2013 #36
Thanks you for this post, Faygo. spartan61 Jul 2013 #37
One thing nebraska has right is annexation laws joeglow3 Jul 2013 #38
Thank you for that lovely overview. SheilaT Jul 2013 #40
excellent insight! kwassa Jul 2013 #42
Born in Detroit, 1952, dad worked for GM ... kwassa Jul 2013 #43
Rec'd for a post which is really well put together. dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #47
Born in William Beaumont hospital bluedeathray Jul 2013 #48
Regarding freeways... NWHarkness Jul 2013 #51
I'm right there with you FaygoKid! JNelson6563 Jul 2013 #52
In the Fifties, Robert Moses pretty did the same thing to the Bronx. no_hypocrisy Jul 2013 #55
Great post! Thank you so much! LiberalLoner Jul 2013 #56
Governor George Romney, father of the evil spawn, Mittens.. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #59
Many good times in Detroit. Cobo Hall, Masonic Temple, Ford Auditorium concerts L0oniX Jul 2013 #60
That photo of Northland The Blue Flower Jul 2013 #64
This article almost brought tears to my eyes. gholtron Jul 2013 #65
Well since all the Detroiters are checking in..... navarth Jul 2013 #67
kick kentuck Jul 2013 #73
History! Great stuff, Faygo Kid! calimary Jul 2013 #74
I personally think there were underlying factors that were more important than the ones in the HiPointDem Jul 2013 #78
Just curious? kentuck Jul 2013 #80
Um, I blame it on the war on unions and the working class and outsourcing, but, whatever, grahamhgreen Jul 2013 #81
+1 n/t Populist_Prole Jul 2013 #92
Hudsons downtown at Christmas was amazing... Bay Boy Jul 2013 #82
'Nother rust-belter. Cleveland - Akron - Pittsburgh. toby jo Jul 2013 #84
Great post Faygo, thanks, and thanks to those who added. Scuba Jul 2013 #86
I've called the Detroit area home for 21 years now..... llmart Jul 2013 #93
I guess there is no need to say much Faygo Kid!!! mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #94
I wonder if they could lessen some of the poverty by converting some of the abandoned buildings back cstanleytech Jul 2013 #101
I believe there was a plan to do just that not too long ago 7962 Jul 2013 #105
Mixed messages going on GigiMommy Jul 2013 #107
No Mention of Redlining? Noslenca Jul 2013 #108
also low-interest & racially-targeted loans for homes in the suburbs v. the city. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #112
I now understand your ID: Faygo Kid emsimon33 Jul 2013 #113
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