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ruggerson

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59. Hate is hate, bigotry is bigotry

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:58 PM

Feb 2012

Preachers and entertainers often have as much of a public platform as do members of the Klan.

Jakes has said he would not hire gay people, has called them "broken", has spoken out repeatedly and fervently against their rigiht to equality.

McClurkin champions the "ex gay" movement which tortures gay children. He has made this a central purpose in his life. He calls gays "Vampires" and being gay a "curse."

You're right. Homophobia is a very big problem, in both communities of color and the white community. The way we, as people, try to ameliorate this is to have more open discussions about it, not less.

I don't speak for the lgbt community, only for myself. Not sure why you would think otherwise.

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Whitney "took to drugs and drinks because she was hiding her true sexuality" [View all] apples and oranges Feb 2012 OP

Sounds like a lame attempt at a rationalization to me slackmaster Feb 2012 #1

I thought everyone knew she was gay anyway. nt valerief Feb 2012 #2

This is my first time hearing about it Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #3

I'd first known of the rumors back in the 80s Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #45

I never heard any such rumors Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #62

Exactly - DURHAM D Feb 2012 #4

Tabloids sure are a big business SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #5

An editorial cartoon in the Ottawa Citizen comes to mind slackmaster Feb 2012 #6

That cartoon is pretty disgusting starroute Feb 2012 #64

Tell that to Ayatollah Ali Khameini Fozzledick Feb 2012 #67

And you know that, how? starroute Feb 2012 #73

Wasn't she a devout Christian? stopbush Feb 2012 #7

Your brush is too broad for "Christian". DURHAM D Feb 2012 #9

It's a fool's errand to keep up with the cherry picking that goes on from one Xian sect to another. stopbush Feb 2012 #19

Yes, being accurate is such a pain in the ass. Union Scribe Feb 2012 #40

Perfect. Wait Wut Feb 2012 #57

In her family, the anti-gay form (of Christianity) seemed to be in effect. Jamastiene Feb 2012 #66

Having watched the funeral yesterday... undeterred Feb 2012 #18

She was scheduled to do an anti-bullying ad aimed at racial minorietys, gay youth the day she died FreeState Feb 2012 #30

Cue the former lovers ... lpbk2713 Feb 2012 #8

There are many but I don't really expect to hear from them. DURHAM D Feb 2012 #10

And what the hell does her sexual preference have to do with anything? HopeHoops Feb 2012 #11

Because new reporters are lazy and Rex Feb 2012 #15

Curiously, I always thought she was the next Arethra Franklin, AND... HopeHoops Feb 2012 #17

I think of Whitney as the 21st century Judy Garland. nt valerief Feb 2012 #21

Nah. Witney had a better voice. (No offense to Garland intended) HopeHoops Feb 2012 #23

I think the reverse. nt valerief Feb 2012 #28

I do too. Zoeisright Feb 2012 #37

I read that too a few years ago. Rex Feb 2012 #22

Think "supermarket tabloids". HopeHoops Feb 2012 #24

Yes. It is so sad. Rex Feb 2012 #25

Preference? It's orientation N/T FreeState Feb 2012 #31

Hard call when someone's bi, but yes, orientation is a better word. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #41

If she was gay or bisexual, that was her orientation n/t ruggerson Feb 2012 #44

It's probably the other way around...she loved booze and drugs more than she loved anyone else. dkf Feb 2012 #12

Why must there always be a hidden agenda? Rex Feb 2012 #13

a person will put up with the level of abuse he/she thinks he/she deserves nt msongs Feb 2012 #14

I can very much relate to this and speak of it dsc Feb 2012 #16

But a lot of Christians don't like to hear that. Intolerant Christians. nt valerief Feb 2012 #20

Most alcoholics and addicts use drugs/alcohol to cope. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #26

It's all true . . . tilsammans Feb 2012 #27

Wow! onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #29

If its true it's not tacky, it's tragic and all too common FreeState Feb 2012 #33

It's tacky regardless onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #34

Keep justifying that homophobia - it destroys lives n/t FreeState Feb 2012 #35

Justifying homophobia??? onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #36

do you call all people who choose not to come out homophobes? nofurylike Feb 2012 #38

Since Donnie McClurkin was invited to be the first singer and TD Jakes was invited to eulogize her ruggerson Feb 2012 #46

Donnie McClurkin onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #47

Would you feel comfortable with David Duke speaking at a memorial? ruggerson Feb 2012 #51

David Duke ??? onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #53

Evidently the problem is ruggerson Feb 2012 #54

True, we'll never know. onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #56

Hate is hate, bigotry is bigotry ruggerson Feb 2012 #59

Not sure why you would think otherwise. onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #63

Here are a couple of links you might find interesting ruggerson Feb 2012 #61

Here we go: Right back to the "it's just one song" claim. Jamastiene Feb 2012 #68

Amen, OnPatrol. Addiction was Whitney's demon. Mimosa Feb 2012 #69

Billie Holliday onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #72

What's tacky is that someone who has no right to do so, is speaking for her. She sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #39

You sound like you think it's an insult to discuss whether a public figure was gay ruggerson Feb 2012 #42

No...I sound like it was tacky. onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #50

So putting aside Peter Tachell ruggerson Feb 2012 #52

Appropriate onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #55

if this is true it's very sad JI7 Feb 2012 #32

Her memorial service was quite beautiful ruggerson Feb 2012 #43

For you Whitney William769 Feb 2012 #48

Beautiful DURHAM D Feb 2012 #49

That makes total sense to me. blue ivy schlotsky Feb 2012 #58

Of course.....after she's dead and can't deny this. cbdo2007 Feb 2012 #60

I agree with everyone in this thread who has called this "tacky". Mr. Tachell should get a life & Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #65

Legally dead people are 'fair game' Mimosa Feb 2012 #70

It really is sad, because they can't defend their name against rumors and baseless charges. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #74

i hope she wasn't because i think living and dying without being able to be really out La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #71