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calimary

(90,039 posts)
88. I can understand this point - up to a point.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 03:43 PM
Jul 2013

But I have to ask - ARE THEY, indeed, really so "innocent"? If majorities of them voted people into office in the state legislature and the governor's mansion who turn around and pull this shit, and enact these laws, and take these stands, and involve themselves with organizations like ALEC, and keep assholes like rick scott employed and gave us jeb bush and katherine harris and allen west? If a majority of Floridians vote for asshole regressives like this? If they obviously approve of shit like this?

ARE THEY REALLY so "innocent"?

You've heard the saying "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." Well - there it is.

Please forgive me for waxing a little simplistic here (and I know some here won't), but it seems to me that if the "innocent" people in Florida don't want to have to deal with boycotts, then THEY need to stop legislation like Stand Your Ground, THEY need to stop voting for republi-CONS who only want to take their Social Security and Medicare away. Nobody's holding guns to their heads and forcing them to watch and swallow whole the propaganda of Pox Noise, or forcing them to listen to limbaugh & company. They choose this stuff. A majority of them chooses this, and votes for this, and donates to this, and supports this.

So - maybe they end up having to reap the whirlwind then.

As for those who don't support these things, they damn well better get themselves to precinct meetings and into lines on Election Day, and in the upcoming midterms get their asses out and vote rather than being apathetic or assuming that it doesn't make any difference or feel as though they don't want to bother. They need to rise up, get everybody they know to the polls, make sure everybody they know is educated about the candidates and issues, GET INVOLVED, AND TAKE THEIR STATE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have little patience with harm that's self-inflicted.

One more thing - California produces GREAT orange juice!

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My problem with boycotting in general is that it's usually the innocent people that get hurt npk Jul 2013 #1
If you feel that way, fine. But boycotts have worked historically brush Jul 2013 #5
Boycotts need specific goals. What's yours? Recursion Jul 2013 #21
the goal is to get rid of stand your ground. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #25
Stand your ground law brush Jul 2013 #32
The point of boycotts is to wake "innocent people" up. delrem Jul 2013 #15
No. The point of boycotts is to incent and deincent specific policies and behaviors Recursion Jul 2013 #24
You seem to be confusing means with agenda. LanternWaste Jul 2013 #69
the stated goal is to get rid of stand your ground, not to wake people up. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #26
Mongomery Bus Boycott had lots of collatertal damage. Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #44
The Montgomery Bus Boycott targeted a specific discriminatory organization/business npk Jul 2013 #71
No one said a boycott would be clean Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #95
I can understand this point - up to a point. calimary Jul 2013 #88
Too late NV Whino Jul 2013 #2
Keep it up. Now you have a different reason. It's never too late. Send a message. nt brush Jul 2013 #3
What message? To whom? Recursion Jul 2013 #22
Oranges are round! Zimmy is round! What more do you need! Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #59
Damn!!!! tumtum Jul 2013 #61
There's another pipi_k Jul 2013 #63
Chavez worked on behalf of the pickers. lpbk2713 Jul 2013 #4
You think it didn't hurt the farm workers back then? brush Jul 2013 #7
No it didn't hurt them, they were on strike. Boycotting grapes only hurt scabs and employers. JVS Jul 2013 #29
The boycott was an extention of the strike. Strikes hurt the strikers too brush Jul 2013 #34
it's a great idea to boycott them anyway. Florida orange juice isn't healthy at all Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #6
That means no OJ BainsBane Jul 2013 #8
All oj isn't from Florida brush Jul 2013 #9
No need to over intellectualize it? BainsBane Jul 2013 #10
Don't think, just do it? How does boycotting a product change a law unrelated to that product? uppityperson Jul 2013 #41
It's against SYG brush Jul 2013 #43
How does stopping buying juice change SYG law? Stopping economic flow into the state will what? uppityperson Jul 2013 #46
Think it through. nt brush Jul 2013 #54
I did. Which is why I am asking you because it makes no sense to me. uppityperson Jul 2013 #56
Economic pressure is how boycotts work over the long haul. nt brush Jul 2013 #64
And if we boycott oj, eventually the oj workers will have better work conditions. Got it, thx. uppityperson Jul 2013 #70
It could help get rid of SYG brush Jul 2013 #90
Stopping buying a product with a state brand on it will cause legislation to happen? uppityperson Jul 2013 #96
I said it "could" not will. brush Jul 2013 #97
What about the other 30 states with SYG laws? tumtum Jul 2013 #57
eventually frylock Jul 2013 #73
You don't have to participate. No biggie. nt brush Jul 2013 #12
look at the labels on your oj. not all from florida. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #27
What about the oyher 48 states which would have likely ended the same way? pipoman Jul 2013 #11
I've been boycotting California orange juice since the OJ Simpson verdict (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #13
I've been boycotting The Simpsons tblue Jul 2013 #28
Are they out of business yet? bigwillq Jul 2013 #39
Boycotts are a good way of highlighting the imprtance of some issues and behavior bhikkhu Jul 2013 #14
I've been avoiding Florida OJ since the Anita Bryant kerfuffle. Brother Buzz Jul 2013 #16
I've been buying banana cream pie since Anita Bryant. tblue Jul 2013 #30
Does this mean I can't pick the oranges in my back yard? William769 Jul 2013 #17
I am sorry William769. I am going to stop replying to your posts because, after all, you are in uppityperson Jul 2013 #42
I have six honeybell orange trees & five regular orange trees William769 Jul 2013 #48
I managed to eat a fresh picked orange once. It was great. Being able to sell some is a good thing uppityperson Jul 2013 #49
I agree. William769 Jul 2013 #55
Holding your breath until you turn blue is just as ineffective. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #18
What do you want Scott to do about the SYG law? Recursion Jul 2013 #19
Like back in the day when we boycotted Florida Cha Jul 2013 #20
The Anita Bryant boycott was more directly targeted though NoPasaran Jul 2013 #72
Thanks for the distinction, NoPasaran.. Cha Jul 2013 #98
problem is, orange juice is often mixed from different sources these days. if you look at the HiPointDem Jul 2013 #23
Can this work? bravenak Jul 2013 #31
California's oranges are MUCH better anyway. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #33
and California peaches too CatWoman Jul 2013 #52
Funny you should mention that. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #65
Selective boycotting... pipi_k Jul 2013 #35
It's about repealing SYG in Florida brush Jul 2013 #37
I already don't buy it because it tastes like ass. California oranges are better. LeftyMom Jul 2013 #36
I'm sure the Martins will appreciate the economic hit ...yea they live there too. L0oniX Jul 2013 #38
I'll buy some today Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #40
Huh? nt brush Jul 2013 #45
just a little "fuck you, liberals" drive by frylock Jul 2013 #74
You wasted your time with some 20k plus posts brush Jul 2013 #78
you really shouldn't drink this early in the day.. frylock Jul 2013 #81
Sorry brush Jul 2013 #102
Why insult someone who is explaining using a disgusted tone? Seems they don't like that uppityperson Jul 2013 #83
Are you responding to my post or Frylock's brush Jul 2013 #89
Frylock is explaining what puzzledtraveler is saying. Who is a teabagger? uppityperson Jul 2013 #93
Sorry. My bad brush Jul 2013 #94
I doubt Rick Scott will "get the message" that a few people online say they're not buying OJ NightWatcher Jul 2013 #47
+1000 uppityperson Jul 2013 #58
Ahhh . . . things don't happen overnight brush Jul 2013 #60
All I have to say to that is big things start small brush Jul 2013 #62
That's "Freedom Juice" to you, sonny! Dash87 Jul 2013 #50
now that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ CatWoman Jul 2013 #53
I'm not going to boycott a product that has nothing to do with the SYG laws. tumtum Jul 2013 #51
And many of those people vote repuke. Zoeisright Jul 2013 #87
Thanks for the post, Zoeisright. brush Jul 2013 #91
I don't need to learn anything thank you. tumtum Jul 2013 #99
"Florida Orange Juice" really comes from Georgia snooper2 Jul 2013 #66
You're saying they don't grown oranges in Florida? nt brush Jul 2013 #67
They have a couple thousand trees but that is it snooper2 Jul 2013 #68
Book your Moscow trip NOW ksoze Jul 2013 #75
Nope, I'm not scared, I'm going to stay here and expose the truth! snooper2 Jul 2013 #77
Didn't we see your name on a flight to Cuba? ksoze Jul 2013 #79
Is the industry still there? brush Jul 2013 #76
that's the most fucked up part- snooper2 Jul 2013 #82
I can also confirm the trucks use gas imported from Venezula ksoze Jul 2013 #84
Oh, thank you!!!!! Best post about the whole stupid thing yet!!!!! djean111 Jul 2013 #92
DU was already boycotting Georgia... Phentex Jul 2013 #85
No thank you. aikoaiko Jul 2013 #80
Oh what a good idea. Zoeisright Jul 2013 #86
K&R. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #100
We've already done this. displacedtexan Jul 2013 #101
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