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BornLooser

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98. Wait a second, is this the Democratic, or the Demagogue Underground?

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:40 PM

Jul 2013

This circular argument has too many obtuse angles, predictably filled with cherry picking, throwing "quotes" back in poster's faces perpetuating self serving gravitas, followed by the tastelessly hysterical rolling with the dogs on the floor avatar. Don't like G.G., cool. Wanna love B.O., far out! Be supportive of your' choices, agree to disagree, argue as adults and suss it out. Scolding good people, playing gotcha with over-the-top obstinance will never sit well with reasonable Democrats. Same goes for the other side of this wedge. Respectful Democrats should behave, as Democrats, and this is the antithesis of said behavior. All this accomplishes is further fracturing of our core, a chip at a time, giving valuable aid to the con artists, and it serves no one...here. Peace....already.

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Greenwald is not the left. [View all] ProSense Jul 2013 OP

Neither is Obama n/t leftstreet Jul 2013 #1

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #5

I have always found that image to be disgusting. MineralMan Jul 2013 #8

Some were either too young, or too oblvious to remember LordGlenconner Jul 2013 #9

It appears as tho it was found not acceptable. n/t Raine1967 Jul 2013 #12

Yes. A good jury decision, all around. Results below: MineralMan Jul 2013 #15

It was just one vote away from leaving it, since ties go to leaving it. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #33

Yes, it was. However, in my experience, most hidden posts MineralMan Jul 2013 #39

I don't think the picture denotes hatred. David__77 Jul 2013 #127

Obama = Bush, which is what that picture says, is hatred of Obama. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #128

Hate Is On The Rise otohara Jul 2013 #14

+1 SunSeeker Jul 2013 #36

you'd have to really hate Obama to post this picture. AlbertCat Jul 2013 #86

And Yet It Got Pulled For Being Hyperbolic otohara Jul 2013 #95

And Yet It Got Pulled For Being Hyperbolic AlbertCat Jul 2013 #96

So Go Somewhere Else otohara Jul 2013 #100

Arrogant much? AlbertCat Jul 2013 #112

No mineralman, Obama has gone too far to be acceptable. nt bonniebgood Jul 2013 #69

Uh-huh... MineralMan Jul 2013 #82

I don't think it's cool at ALL to post that DevonRex Jul 2013 #11

A jury has decided to hide that offensive photoshop. MineralMan Jul 2013 #13

Thank goodness. DevonRex Jul 2013 #16

I posted the jury results above, in #15 MineralMan Jul 2013 #18

Obama is an African American man. Proudly so. AlbertCat Jul 2013 #87

Do you have a point? DevonRex Jul 2013 #91

We are all aware of that fact. AlbertCat Jul 2013 #93

Ouch Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #67

You got that right. bowens43 Jul 2013 #79

Neither is Prosense. Far right ideology disquised as "it's the best we can do". To them, Torture is grahamhgreen Jul 2013 #85

[citation needed] ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2013 #88

Sure grahamhgreen Jul 2013 #109

So posting the ProSense Jul 2013 #116

Let's clear this up. Should torturers be prosecuted? grahamhgreen Jul 2013 #118

Yes, ProSense Jul 2013 #119

Too true. polichick Jul 2013 #147

yawn nt msongs Jul 2013 #2

I know. I wish they would get it that no one cares about Ron Paul! nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #53

Back to Flooding Capt. Obvious Jul 2013 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #4

Bingo.. you hit that one out of the ball park Peacetrain Jul 2013 #6

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #30

It's always great to see newcomers drop by and accuse old members of being trolls! struggle4progress Jul 2013 #84

Yeah, how damn dumb do you have to be? nm Cha Jul 2013 #111

Hi. I'm part of the left and think Glen Greenwald is great. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #7

Funny, with your disdain for the left whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #10

What people don't understand about Greenwald is that he is a reporter and a Cleita Jul 2013 #17

His training is as a lawyer, and he uses truth as a lawyer flamingdem Jul 2013 #20

So because he's a lawyer, he's not a journalist in your mind? Cleita Jul 2013 #22

Greenwald is not a journalist. OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #129

Fuck Greenwald and anyone that reposts his garbage. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #19

Glenn Greenwald is as left as Ron and Rand Paul are.... Spazito Jul 2013 #21

He's a Paulite. Too much of a scumbag for either party, really. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #23

And it starts. Apophis Jul 2013 #24

What? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #25

And you are? last1standing Jul 2013 #26

Not, ProSense Jul 2013 #29

So if Grennwald and I have some similar views I'm a supporter... last1standing Jul 2013 #32

You make no sense, and I made no absurd claim. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #35

So when you rec'd Flamingodem's 'convergence' thread you weren't supporting it. last1standing Jul 2013 #54

To quote Jonathan Swift: Maedhros Jul 2013 #42

The most notable trait of Greenwald's writing style Maedhros Jul 2013 #38

Here's ProSense Jul 2013 #46

Other than this short note, I won't respond directly to your posts. Maedhros Jul 2013 #49

I suppose ProSense Jul 2013 #51

I've provided responses to your ad hominem attacks on Greenwald multiple times in the past. Maedhros Jul 2013 #58

Your claims are bogus. ProSense Jul 2013 #65

I'm putting you on ignore. Nothing personal. [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2013 #72

. ProSense Jul 2013 #76

Right ON bahrbearian Jul 2013 #64

I quit responding to her posts quite a while ago. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #89

You clicked on this OP. ProSense Jul 2013 #90

Please don't be flattered by this rare response. It will probably be the last for a long time. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #94

Oh ProSense Jul 2013 #97

I've responded to every one of her smears, in detail, more than once. Maedhros Jul 2013 #114

Stop being disingenuous, and ProSense Jul 2013 #115

Your "Third Way Worldspeak" linguistic framing might fool a few seriously reality challenged idiots, Zorra Jul 2013 #27

Guardian's Glenn Greenwald endorses Holt POSTED: Friday, July 19, 2013, Zorra Jul 2013 #28

Booker. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #34

What have you got against Rush Holt? Maedhros Jul 2013 #40

I have absolutely nothing against Holt, AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #44

So you are criticizing Greenwald for supporting a candidate Maedhros Jul 2013 #56

Booker is Third Way rightie, Holt is a progressive lefty. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #45

Cory Booker's defense of Wall Street may hurt his status with liberals, but it won't hurt his bank Zorra Jul 2013 #41

From the same article: AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #50

The point here is: Greenwald is a left progressive, who is supporting a left progressive Zorra Jul 2013 #66

First we are told over and over and over again to do the work of supporting better democrats then, Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #77

Exactly. The whole Third Way MO is smoke and mirrors. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #78

Obama nominates Chuck Hagel for Defense, John Brennan for CIA frylock Jul 2013 #63

Fuck Third Way and Paul supporters. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #31

Holy Irony, Batman. quakerboy Jul 2013 #108

Greenwald is one of the best journalists working today, and I'm a huge fan! quinnox Jul 2013 #37

If he wasn't on to something with his series of articles on the NSA Maedhros Jul 2013 #48

GOLDSTEIN!!! n/t backscatter712 Jul 2013 #43

You know it Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #70

Just stopped by to snicker Android3.14 Jul 2013 #47

K&R stonecutter357 Jul 2013 #52

This is what "Support Obama" has degenerated to AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #55

Ad hominem isn't an argument. n/t D23MIURG23 Jul 2013 #57

Cricitism is criticism n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #60

Death by a thousand BLUE LINKIES Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #59

Yeah, ProSense Jul 2013 #61

"If it bleeds, we can kill it" Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #74

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #62

oh, my sides!!! MNBrewer Jul 2013 #68

Haven't commented on this before b/c I don't quite know what to make of it... War Horse Jul 2013 #71

Greenwald is an Ur-fascist B Stieg Jul 2013 #73

Lol. Let us know when you are invited to speak at a Socialism conference. kenny blankenship Jul 2013 #75

Does supporting the Pauls make one a socialist? ProSense Jul 2013 #81

The photo that dipsydoodle posted seems to most fit Obama. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #80

If it is discussed in the MSM, it ain't the left. dogknob Jul 2013 #83

You mean, ProSense Jul 2013 #92

FOX has been portraying themselves as "alternative media" forever. dogknob Jul 2013 #101

Wait a second, is this the Democratic, or the Demagogue Underground? BornLooser Jul 2013 #98

Welcome, ProSense Jul 2013 #99

He is the center. Just because he DLC and pukes have moved to the right does not mean reality has on point Jul 2013 #102

Who cares about labeling? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2013 #103

So what is the Left? Savannahmann Jul 2013 #104

OK, ProSense Jul 2013 #117

Lol. Union Scribe Jul 2013 #105

Why ProSense Jul 2013 #106

No he isn't. He's a big-L Libertarian. But no amount of evidence will concince the faithful. ucrdem Jul 2013 #107

Only 38 recs? RetroLounge Jul 2013 #110

I know, ProSense Jul 2013 #113

LOL Scurrilous Jul 2013 #130

Well, there it is. Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #132

I thought it wasn't about Greenwald. But here you are, making it into a personality. Quantess Jul 2013 #120

It isn't "about Greenwald" unless it's to praise him. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #121

No, you can't have it both ways. Quantess Jul 2013 #123

My comment was snark. The OP is clearly about Greenwald. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #124

This is the sort of OP that is posted AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #122

My turn! OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #131

K&R! sheshe2 Jul 2013 #125

So What? 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #126

A fine blast from the past. OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #133

By that logic neither are you. Fearless Jul 2013 #134

"Generalizations"? ProSense Jul 2013 #137

You prove my point Fearless Jul 2013 #148

And neither are you. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #135

Yeah, you must be the left because you said "Cha-ching." ProSense Jul 2013 #138

Glenn Greenwald addresses Socialism 2013 conference in Chicago Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #136

I prefer ProSense Jul 2013 #139

Like David Sirota and many progressives he was opposing the Obama drone program and on that Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #140

Um ProSense Jul 2013 #141

why does it not surprise me that you think that at? Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #142

"Why does it not surprise me that you" agree with his drivel? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #143

But, you see, in *Third Way World* socialism is a RIGHT WING ideology! Left is Right. Zorra Jul 2013 #146

Are you the left? AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #144

Left , right, libertarian, anarchist, whatever. Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #145