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randome

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13. 'Everyone knows'? Right, right, the NSA has the goods on everyone.

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:39 PM

Jul 2013

Then why are they having this debate? Why did the NSA allow these proposed changes to even get off the ground?

You may not like it but there are legitimate reasons for national security briefings to be private. We could use less secrecy, sure, but that's not the same as saying every function of the government and of law enforcement needs to be approved by 300 million people.
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NSA is circling its wagons, in open defiance of Congressional concerns. [View all] 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 OP

Like a rabid, cornered wild animal, it has several instinctive choices. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2013 #1

Or one more zeemike Jul 2013 #27

Alexander needs to be thrown in Guantanamo as an enemy of the state n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #2

I agree. kentuck Jul 2013 #3

One can only imagine what kind of ugly threats, intimidation, etc. went down 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #4

Next comes the one on one meeting where reps find out what the NSA has on them. dkf Jul 2013 #10

Pics w/ circles and arrows. 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #14

Just like J.Edgar Hoover used to do with the dirt he dug up on family members as well. Divernan Jul 2013 #26

Amen to that. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #6

The NSA is supposed to be subordinate to the government of the people. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #23

If what Wyden says is true that the data collection has failed to snappyturtle Jul 2013 #5

No. Never. They wouldn't do that.. That would be blackmail. 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #7

I was being sarcastic too....but I couldn't figure out how snappyturtle Jul 2013 #12

Because what they're really meant to do is too terrifying. Fuddnik Jul 2013 #22

Yes, See "TSA" HumansAndResources Jul 2013 #37

Let's Hope Those Wagons Break Some Wheels cantbeserious Jul 2013 #8

Lobbying and talking is the same as 'defiance'? LOL! randome Jul 2013 #9

TOP SECRET meetings, Secret proceedings, Secret, Secret, Secret 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #11

'Everyone knows'? Right, right, the NSA has the goods on everyone. randome Jul 2013 #13

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. <-- An axiomatic truism 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #16

There can be many reasons for secrecy in government. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #35

Totally with you on this. It's for public consumption to give the appearance of integrity. ancianita Jul 2013 #15

C'mon, Monkey! Everyone knows there's nothing wrong with secret meetings to decide policy! Maedhros Jul 2013 #18

The NSA is going to show them all the dirt they have on....... Bonhomme Richard Jul 2013 #17

Exactly. That is the all-too-obvious sub-text to this 'top secret lobbying' eom 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #19

Peachy. Let's trust the National 'Seems' Agency's emergency briefing as much as ancianita Jul 2013 #20

Didn't any of these congresspeople take the oath of office MsPithy Jul 2013 #21

LOL ... Congressional concerns = dog and pony show. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #24

A "Punch & Judy Show" <-- Dennis Kucinich called it ... eom 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #25

the intel elites ARE running the country grasswire Jul 2013 #28

Damn! 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #29

I know. grasswire Jul 2013 #30

I guess the good news is, "the Wheel is still in spin" 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #31

Great article -- Wired. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #36

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #32

They are defying John Conyers?... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #33

no doubt such a letter is in the works 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #34