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[stupidicus]

224. I'd agree with that

but again I was confining myself to our adversaries here on DU. I'm a relatively new poster here, having started my participation maybe a year ago now, and it's been my perception anyway, starting with the great chained-cpi debate (and a little about the drones prior to that) that commenced well before the last election, that it was spearheaded by and predominantlyy consisted of an older crowd based on the substance of their arguments against it. That largely took the form of their being able, seemingly based on memory, to compare and contrast the "new dems" against the ones they grew up with. Those who lived through and paid attention during the Bill "Mr. Third Way" himself Clinton for example, may have found a great deal to be disappointed about with the BHO admin, but not so much that's been a shock or surprising.

I would certainly agree that many of the more vociferous adversaries here are likely those struggling with the conflicts between their beliefs and the new realities, and are likely older as well. Similarly however, based on my readings of and interactions with many of those who lend them support, they seem to lack the background knowledge the aforementioned possess.

I could be reading too much into all that, or read too little of those who I used to make this case. In my estimation this is all irrelevant anyway Sabrina, and mostly just a conversation piece. They appear to be losing on the merits and in terms of "poll numbers" on this issue here and in the wider public arena as they did with the chained-cpi debate before it. I tried telling some of their opinion "leaders" way back then that they are likely to find themselves in the minority around here, and that they should consider that before calling us BHO-haters, Romneyites, or more recently, racists.

What I've marveled at more than anything else is how similar it has all been to the "debating" I've done almost exclusively with rightwingers for the last decade and more with both their tactics and substance -- or lack of the latter.