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AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
62. TBH.....
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:05 PM
Jul 2013

There's no chance of us dying out, not thanks to just AGW alone, anyway....Contrary to the insistence of some. Even a mass sudden/short-term partial die-off is extremely unlikely(honestly, Apophis hitting the Earth in 2036 is more likely!).
Overpopulation may indeed be a problem, I guess that may be true, but just the number of humans living now is far from the only factor to consider; sanitation, economic corruption, and advancement in certain areas of technology, etc., all need to be considered.

With that said, I do believe that it's likely that we will hit a plateau sometime during this century, and China & India will probably see the most notable declines. I am concerned that famine & disease may in fact play a role, not just in China & India, but the Third World as well, particularly in countries such as Vietnam, Thailand, Nigeria, etc. But this decline will likely be quite slow and play out incrementally over many decades.....not exactly what I'd call a "mass die-off", TBH.

Climate change is a problem, and will likely continue to be an issue for the next couple of centuries until things stabilize. However, though, it's important to realize that very few, if any of the worst-case scenarios, apart from Arctic ice melt(And even in the case of the Arctic, we could easily have avoided the collapses of both 2007 & 2012 for a while), have come to pass. In fact, Co2 sensitivity isn't as high as we first thought, either, neither is the amount of methane in immediate(within 100 years in this case) danger of being released(in fact, more recent studies are saying that the sooner we act, the less methane to worry about).....it also turns out that paleo-climate data wasn't exactly a perfect yardstick for measuring possible future climate change, either(not even close, in fact, as far as sensitivity is concerned).

So while we've got a long road ahead, we're not exactly doomed, either, and we have still been making some progress. Really, the best thing for us to do, is keep our heads clear as much as possible, and keep looking forward.



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. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #1
I hope so too. IrishAyes Jul 2013 #2
I did my homework and moved to the high desert Warpy Jul 2013 #3
I had a little horse ranch in the high desert outback IrishAyes Jul 2013 #20
Well, I chose carefully Warpy Jul 2013 #24
Well, I was a daddy's girl IrishAyes Jul 2013 #29
When I was in Hawaii, I never tuned on the shower's hot water either. RC Jul 2013 #37
Well, Hawaii ain't NYC in December either! IrishAyes Jul 2013 #51
Yeah, I know. RC Jul 2013 #55
Warpy, when I was a kid I lived in Las Vegas NM, and at first it was quite a shock for me classof56 Jul 2013 #43
I like you're dads idea :-) madokie Jul 2013 #58
waves from Tucson area LittleGirl Jul 2013 #23
20% humidity. Wow! Just wow! paleotn Jul 2013 #42
I didn't realize this - but I can tell you the 15 minute windstorm that came through Oswego County hedgehog Jul 2013 #4
Strange indeed, though I wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet. n/t AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #5
Jump to what conclusion? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #7
I didn't say or imply that he HAD done so, by the way. AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #8
You did hear the Arctic ice is melting, right? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #13
Umm.....yeah. I heard about it. Everyone on here has(dumb question, TBH). AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #30
OK I'll say it and I will Jump to the conclusion we are now FUBR bahrbearian Jul 2013 #14
We've had the weirdest winds continually out of the east here in SoCal the past couple of weeks. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #6
I just moved from Anaheim to Vegas in time for the worse thunderstorms anyone here has seen.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #34
Those are so cool Politicalboi Jul 2013 #54
To me it's like watching fireworks. Michigan puts on some good shows too. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #56
WEIRDLY WINDY up here in the north state too and we're EXPECTING A STORM this week! Ecumenist Jul 2013 #36
Yeah, it's kinda overcast and threatening here. Rare as hen's teeth in July. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #38
Send rain! bluedigger Jul 2013 #9
Gladly! tosh Jul 2013 #22
A video about the jet stream I posted earlier ...link below... things are changing... peoli Jul 2013 #10
+ 1000...been following Dr. Jennifer Francis' work since last year.... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #16
I cannot state what could possibly acount for it - truedelphi Jul 2013 #59
I've noticed that east to west pattern for the last 2 months obxhead Jul 2013 #11
Definitely strange to be sure. AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #32
We got nailed! obxhead Jul 2013 #52
I'd be careful about that, though. AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #60
agreed obxhead Jul 2013 #61
TBH..... AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #62
and we had that west coast hurricane NewJeffCT Jul 2013 #12
LOL! Nt abelenkpe Jul 2013 #44
I see a butterfly that hates its mother underpants Jul 2013 #15
It's almost as if the Equator has moved north dsharp88 Jul 2013 #17
See post #16 and the video in the post #10 Also... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #18
I'm visiting in Littleton, CO Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #19
Huge amount of tundra melt this year all over the Arctic.... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #21
Oh, yeah, Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #46
Welcome to Colorado Esse Quam Videri Jul 2013 #35
Thanks. Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #45
upslope can blow it from east to west sometimes fizzgig Jul 2013 #49
"because most hurricanes recurve out to sea as they move North" NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #25
Check this image: Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #27
Trust me, I'm aware. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #41
That's once every ~300 years, if I understand those odds BlueStreak Jul 2013 #26
Just read Sandy was a once in 700 year storm.... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #28
BTW: Hurricane Sandy's Track Shows It Was A 1-In-700 Year Storm Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #33
How does sandy compare to the 1938 and labor day hurricanes that struck NYC? Lucky Luciano Jul 2013 #39
The 1938 hurricane hammered Connecticut NewJeffCT Jul 2013 #47
The 1893 New York Hurricane was more similar to Sandy. FarCenter Jul 2013 #48
700 years retrospectively -- 30 years looking forward BlueStreak Jul 2013 #40
Edit: Replied to wrong person. Sorry. =O AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #31
Its been unusually cool down here in South Alabama all Summer. Elwood P Dowd Jul 2013 #50
It's probably from the wind turbines Politicalboi Jul 2013 #53
I heard a repuke honestly say that if they turn them ALL on at once Rex Jul 2013 #57
Once the Hadley Cell becomes supersized, all bets are off. The Ferrel Cell will be influenced. mick063 Jul 2013 #63
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