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85. String pulling power is based on favors.

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:34 PM

Jul 2013

To be able to pull a string to have to be able to respond when your string is pulled. IOW - To get someone in power to do a favor for you, you have to be able to do favors for them. A VA Magistrate can't even take care of a parking ticket. He ability to do favors was very limited, and across state lines it would basically vanish.

1st bonus question. Because Z was trying to make himself look more important than he really was. That is consistent with Z's personality.

#2: For weeks I have been posting that his dad wasn't a judge. When I saw one more poster make that claim, I got fed up with it. I decided to let all of DU know that it wasn't true. People, like yourself and many others, can get mad at me, but what I have said is true. His father was NOT a judge.

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Zimmerman's father was NEVER a judge. [View all] GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 OP

Already been established. Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #1

The significance of George Zimmerman's father, JimDandy Jul 2013 #142

But he somehow had the power to influence prosecutors, jurors, etc. Pablo Guachupita Jul 2013 #2

Trial is over. No one gives a fuck. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #3

YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED Skittles Jul 2013 #4

Amen, +1000. (nt) Paladin Jul 2013 #5

+ a brazillion uppityperson Jul 2013 #6

This. Robb Jul 2013 #10

. NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #14

x ten million. Oh, and a *magistrate* isn't connected AT ALL. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #17

Magistrate is what VA calls their JPs. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #29

Oh no. None at all. The "I feared for my life" happened AFTER he talked to his father LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #47

No shit BainsBane Jul 2013 #33

They also most spike the ball and do an end zone dance. Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #34

ya think he/she/it gets it? CatWoman Jul 2013 #38

No shit, Moses2SandyKoufax Jul 2013 #39

They just won't quit. Got to rub it in our faces. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #46

You really expected something different then this gloating? Rex Jul 2013 #57

Not gloating. Fed up with people posting that he was a judge who used influence. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #61

But wasn't that one of the main reasons Zimmerman wasn't arrested right away R B Garr Jul 2013 #65

Yes, they all know that to a T. Rex Jul 2013 #104

no that was one of the absurd conspiracy theories hfojvt Jul 2013 #145

If he knew people on the police force in Florida, then where he was connected doesn't matter R B Garr Jul 2013 #153

but knowing police does not have anything to do with being a magistrate in Va hfojvt Jul 2013 #154

On that police department, the one which did not arrest Zimmerman right away R B Garr Jul 2013 #155

I don't think "clout" had anything to do with how the Sanford police handled this case. onenote Jul 2013 #158

Why? If you are picky over facts how do you know he was not? Rex Jul 2013 #66

He's not picky over facts. If he were, he'd know that they are the same. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #72

Ya another one jumped in like clockwork to tell me Rex Jul 2013 #75

I think ladybug is agreeing with you uppityperson Jul 2013 #78

Not her. Rex Jul 2013 #82

Yes, her. I was agreeing with you. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #86

Ah, sorry uppityperson Jul 2013 #89

NP. Rex Jul 2013 #92

I *was* agreeing with him, you were right. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #95

Yes we have something in common in this thread. Rex Jul 2013 #100

WHAT "further down the thread? nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #90

#87 Rex Jul 2013 #94

#87 was not written by me. what gives? LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #99

Sorry that is who I was refering to. Rex Jul 2013 #101

Ok, but you should tell me a funny story now. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #103

Funny story time. Rex Jul 2013 #140

^^ this ^^ nt. LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #83

Oh yeah! Rex Jul 2013 #88

Glad we worked that out. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #102

Not in Va. dgibby Jul 2013 #159

I'm fed up with a dead kid because of a paranoid racist gun humping piece of SHIT Skittles Jul 2013 #109

That still doesn't make his father a Judge. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #114

del and putting this gun humper on IGNORE Skittles Jul 2013 #117

Love you! Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #63

+1 @ Skittles davidpdx Jul 2013 #91

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #148

Skittles, please run for prez in 2016! bigwillq Jul 2013 #150

+10000000 JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #151

Well, that makes it okay that he stalked and killed an unarmed kid. yewberry Jul 2013 #7

However, he IS a racist asshole who raised a son who murdered a teen one night. uppityperson Jul 2013 #8

Office Of the Magistrate VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #9

He was NOT a judge. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #11

He did adjudicate as noted above... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #18

Compare that to what a JP does in other states. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #31

I gave you the definition of what one does in Virginia... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #105

Because they are the same duties. Only the title is different. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #107

and that meaaannsss???? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #111

That his dad had the duties of a JP, but the title was Magistrate. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #113

So in VA he was a judge. Right. uppityperson Jul 2013 #119

In VIRGINIA VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #122

He didn't even require a law degree. nt hack89 Jul 2013 #12

JPs do more than marry people. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #20

What's the point? pintobean Jul 2013 #13

I got tired of people posted about his daddy being a judge. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #15

One person posted it, so rather than answering him there, you had to start another thread. uppityperson Jul 2013 #16

For weeks I have been posting that to individuals. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #23

Uh huh. Annoys you when someone else does it? uppityperson Jul 2013 #27

He accused me of being that person at first. Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #24

I have to agree. pintobean Jul 2013 #28

Hello there. Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #30

And I apologized for that error. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #37

Fine. But you didn't have to start another thread Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #40

You could go delete the post that says.... uppityperson Jul 2013 #42

Fair request. I was responding to the wrong person. Done. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #44

are you saying he had NO ability to influence based on his profession? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #19

A VA JP is going to have influence in FL? LOL. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #21

Oh you don't really believe THAT do you? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #22

But the people who knew him in Florida knew what he did (in VA) R B Garr Jul 2013 #35

I'm with uppityperson on this one. pintobean Jul 2013 #25

He got away with murder BainsBane Jul 2013 #26

Judge. Magistrate. So what? Fucker fathered a child killer. Octafish Jul 2013 #32

Exactly, dad brought Zman up to be a gun carrying bigot. Hoyt Jul 2013 #48

So he was a 'wanna be' judge in the same manner his kid was a 'wanna be" law enforcement,,,, benld74 Jul 2013 #36

Maybe. But JPs have very little influence to pull strings. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #41

Do you just post here to taunt people who mourned Trayvon's unjustified killing? Ken Burch Jul 2013 #43

Why do people post that his daddy was a judge when he wasn't? GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #50

Just stop. uppityperson Jul 2013 #53

Your post would be somewhat more credible if you hadn't referred to black males as "BMs". Ken Burch Jul 2013 #121

Who cares? yardwork Jul 2013 #45

His son is a murderer. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #49

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #149

at least in WV, a magistrate is one level below judge dlwickham Jul 2013 #51

So is a JP, in most states. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #52

You'd be wrong in your guess onenote Jul 2013 #64

most judges don't handle traffic tickets dlwickham Jul 2013 #124

In Virginia, magistrates are hired onenote Jul 2013 #128

Know who started the DU myth that George's dad was a judge? Just Saying Jul 2013 #54

looks like people ignore the "magistrate" part of "magistrate judge" dlwickham Jul 2013 #123

... Just Saying Jul 2013 #134

STFU already RetroLounge Jul 2013 #55

Zimmerman said his daddy was a judge, why are you splitting hairs here? Rex Jul 2013 #56

It is well establish that Z is a slimeball. I have never denied that. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #58

Why do you believe someone connected with the courts in 1 state would have no string pulling power uppityperson Jul 2013 #59

String pulling power is based on favors. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #85

String pulling is based on history also. Not just on being able to give/take equally. It also is uppityperson Jul 2013 #98

Have you ever listened to the song, "What Have You Done For Me Lately?" GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #108

Hahahahahahahahaha. Fail. Major fail. Influence is not simply based on what you can do now. uppityperson Jul 2013 #110

If you think that you can get major strings pulled "for old times sake", you are naive. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #115

So I guess papabush, cheney, all of them are now powerless. Skull & Bones types means nothing? uppityperson Jul 2013 #116

Basically correct. They are has-beens. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #130

Oh, I understand well, thank you very much. Refusing to acknowledge that there may be unseen uppityperson Jul 2013 #138

Picky over facts? His dad was a judge, they called him a magistrate. Rex Jul 2013 #62

The position was basically the same as a JP in other states. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #67

You do realize that another word for magistrate is judge, right? Rex Jul 2013 #68

Sure. And so is appraiser onenote Jul 2013 #71

He was a judge and did the things judges do, sorry if that bothers you in some way. Rex Jul 2013 #73

He was not permitted to virtually any of the things that a judge does onenote Jul 2013 #79

Of course you are! Rex Jul 2013 #84

Look it up. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #106

How could you possibly know if his dad knows other people in the criminal justice system? uppityperson Jul 2013 #76

Hey they want you to believe a magistrate ain't a judge. Rex Jul 2013 #81

Occam's Razor onenote Jul 2013 #132

Occam's Razor cuts cleanly through many issues. It is sharp indeed. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #139

Except a Virginia magistrate isn't a judge onenote Jul 2013 #69

See post #68. Rex Jul 2013 #70

Since I don't believe anything Zimmerman said, that's of no consequence to me onenote Jul 2013 #74

#68 Rex Jul 2013 #77

We get it. You don't have a response to the fact that the state of Virginia onenote Jul 2013 #87

Meltdown on someone else's time. Rex Jul 2013 #97

I wonder if that means Daddy couldn't help him become a cop on VA Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #60

I was under the impression McPops Jul 2013 #80

Then remove dad from the equation mokawanis Jul 2013 #93

Exactly. onenote Jul 2013 #133

But George Zimmerman is a scumbag... 99Forever Jul 2013 #96

I have no problem with calling Z a scumbag. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #112

They wouldn't have even bagged him on a manslaughter charge McPops Jul 2013 #118

-1 Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2013 #125

His father had enough influence. Those who disagree with you are simply "wrong"? Huh. uppityperson Jul 2013 #120

The jury didn't follow your scenario, JimDandy Jul 2013 #137

In the Commonwealth of MA, Magistrates are political appointees--patronage jobs, basically. MADem Jul 2013 #126

however, his grandfather *was* in the foreign service... and we're not quite sure what zim's HiPointDem Jul 2013 #127

Were you ever a Democrat? nt NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #129

And Virginia is not a state, but rather a commonwealth LanternWaste Jul 2013 #131

Here is my opinion about George Zimmerman supporters... trumad Jul 2013 #135

+100 billh58 Jul 2013 #146

+10000 BainsBane Jul 2013 #147

It's interesting that you go out of your way to clear up any possible Lisa D Jul 2013 #136

It is progressive to hold a person's relatives guilty of the sins of that one person? GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #143

I have to wonder what you think progressive means? BainsBane Jul 2013 #156

I think its clearly more progressive to recognize onenote Jul 2013 #157

I thought he was a real judge in Florida, from the way the story was played JPZenger Jul 2013 #141

At this point JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #144

Your guy got off with a not guilty verdict. Jamastiene Jul 2013 #152