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MADem

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136. Hawaii is one of those states where it's not easy to just slide in and out.

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 12:56 AM

Jul 2013

I can take back roads and go to CT, or RI, or NH, or VT, and maybe escape notice if I borrow someone's car, splash mud on the license, and make sure I have enough gas to get back....but don't they check everyone coming in to HI to make sure they aren't smuggling a rabid dog in their hip pocket, or something? I haven't been there in years--and I didn't go to any of those vacation-y islands, I went to Oahu for work--so my first question is, WHICH island?

Did he go party on Maui-wowee like a vacationer going "to an island in the middle of the ocean" to see rainbows and unicorns or did he go to a rather congested island that is Quickie Tourist and Business, and military, and ... NSA ... combined?

Inquiring minds want to know!!!!

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Hawaii is one of those states where it's not easy to just slide in and out. MADem Jul 2013 #136

I suppose there's a record of his trip flamingdem Jul 2013 #140

Time will tell if this is a defection flamingdem Jul 2013 #5

Of course its a defection! revmclaren Jul 2013 #92

what a lazy man.. snooper2 Jul 2013 #7

The campaign -edit: for his flight - to raise $ has $375 and needs 200,000! flamingdem Jul 2013 #11

I've seen DU'ers raise twice that to fix a cat before snooper2 Jul 2013 #14

Maybe Snowden should adopt a sick cat. n/t Scurrilous Jul 2013 #17

Or move to a closet and get an RT tv show flamingdem Jul 2013 #19

Doesn't seem he'd be a trustworthy employee in his old industry brush Jul 2013 #8

maybe he can shovel coal. Whisp Jul 2013 #110

Hah! Good one. nt brush Jul 2013 #117

Good luck to him alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #12

Putin hates his arse since he snitched flamingdem Jul 2013 #20

I see the gang is all here. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #58

Did you see my anti-monarchy posts as well? flamingdem Jul 2013 #61

No but I see the attempt here failed to get much in the way of bites. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #62

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They don't give me credit for flamingdem Jul 2013 #139

I can see it now, Snowden applies to Russia's Federal Guard Service and they gladly employ him. Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #13

Except he could end up being the greatest trojan horse of all time. Socal31 Jul 2013 #129

He would not have to worry about US drones, they would take care of him. Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #133

Some of his biggest supporters should go join him. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #15

Watch Russia become the new Greenrandian vacation hotspot! flamingdem Jul 2013 #18

Some of them alreadly only watch Russia Today for that fine, objective reporting. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #22

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There's one now! AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #31

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2013 would call... AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #39

Your association of my post with "I <3 Putin and Russia" speaks volumes NuclearDem Jul 2013 #47

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+1,000,000,000. If Only! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #84

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Greenwald will be selling timeshares in Russia before this is all over flamingdem Jul 2013 #23

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True, but... AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #77

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�He�s planning to arrange his life here." BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #30

Teh internet connection too slow? flamingdem Jul 2013 #32

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Possibly The Straight Story Jul 2013 #65

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Doesn't matter does it? He isn't one of us anymore! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #123

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LOL 'Mother Russia?' leftstreet Jul 2013 #69

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Kucherana revmclaren Jul 2013 #93

Or the famous OLGA! flamingdem Jul 2013 #102

OMG!!!!!!!!! revmclaren Jul 2013 #111

sherpa! flamingdem Jul 2013 #101

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Remember...tinfoil hat! revmclaren Jul 2013 #124

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