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Scootaloo

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30. Good question!

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:28 AM

Jul 2013

"Unlisted" drone wars in Pakistan and Yemen - OPTIONAL
Iraq invasion - OPTIONAL
Afghanistan - OPTIONAL
Bosnia / Kosovo - Asked to intervene by allies for humanitarian reasons, I'm going with "defensive" here
Haiti - OPTIONAL
Somalia - OPTIONAL
Gulf War - IFFY - Intervened to protect Saudi Arabia, after letting Kuwait get fucked by our other friend, Saddam
Panama - OPTIONAL
Libya - OPTIONAL
Grenada - OPTIONAL
Lebanon - OPTIONAL
Cambodia - OPTIONAL
Vietnam - OPTIONAL
Korea - IFFY - Was a defensive line until Chinese involvement
World War 2 - Iffy, leaning to defensive - We were attacked, but it's possible the attack could have been avoided
Archangel Invasion - OPTIONAL
World War 1 - OPTIONAL
Everything between WWI and the Civil War - Not just OPTIONAL, sometimes blatantly GENOCIDAL
Civil War - DEFENSIVE; south Carolina fired upon a Union fort.
Utah War - OPTIONAL
Japan - OPTIONAL
Mexico - FUCKING DEFINITION OF OPTIONAL
Second Barbary Wars - DEFENSIVE - the Bey of Algiers declared war on us. Pops.
1812 - OPTIONAL
First Barbary Wars - DEFENSIVE
First round of "Indian Wars" - OPTIONAL
Revolutionary War - OPTIONAL

The last time US troops defended the United States was arguably World War 2. before that, the Civil War. In between is a broad stretch of colonialist, imperialist wars and engagements that should make ANY idiot who says "we fight more wars with a volunteer force!" blush with embarassment.

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Reinstate the Selective Service "Draft." [View all] jonthebru Jul 2013 OP

"butthole buddy?" cyberswede Jul 2013 #1

I have to agree. xfundy Jul 2013 #6

A little homophobia tends to spice things up. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #14

So long as we pick up right where we left off in the 70's! Scootaloo Jul 2013 #2

So people too old to be effective should be drafted? xfundy Jul 2013 #8

Oh, it's perfectly logical Scootaloo Jul 2013 #18

I wish I could reccommend this reply! LeftofObama Jul 2013 #23

+1000!!! nt Javaman Jul 2013 #38

Maybe the point is... onpatrol98 Jul 2013 #32

Draft = less money Go Vols Jul 2013 #3

John 'Stop Collecting Data' Conyers wants to collect people against their will AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #4

Wow. xfundy Jul 2013 #9

What was the last war the nation has fought RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #19

Good question! Scootaloo Jul 2013 #30

Even better list... Javaman Jul 2013 #40

I actually did enlist, by the way. onpatrol98 Jul 2013 #34

Damned straight I will. All of that nonsense doesn't mean jack to me. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #39

I'm not sure this is a bad idea. McPops Jul 2013 #5

Make an intentionally inefficient army... Pelican Jul 2013 #7

Inefficient? McPops Jul 2013 #13

On a daily basis I work through the BS of people who volunteered to be here... Pelican Jul 2013 #21

Draftees bitched and complained, but they did their job with a high degree of integrity Brother Buzz Jul 2013 #42

right... Pelican Jul 2013 #43

This dumb draftee is against it but the late Colonel Hackworth had an interesting perspective Brother Buzz Jul 2013 #10

Great post! nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #15

Those are some valid points for a draft. bluedigger Jul 2013 #22

Great quote... catnhatnh Jul 2013 #25

I posted this response back in January HeiressofBickworth Jul 2013 #11

Yeah, the peacetime draft worked really well to prevent wars Warpy Jul 2013 #12

As the jury failed miserably here, I am kindly requesting that you remove "butthole buddy"... Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #16

SHAME! Spend the energy cutting the current wars rather than trying to persuade congress to uppityperson Jul 2013 #17

Selective Service is still active and ready to go if necessary. Socal31 Jul 2013 #20

We had a draft in the 1960's ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2013 #24

Draft SamKnause Jul 2013 #26

"Selective service" is the exact opposite of universal service. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #27

A draft is a waste of time these days madville Jul 2013 #28

How on Earth can someone argue that a draft reduces stupid wars? dairydog91 Jul 2013 #29

^^this^^ Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #35

I remember when progressives wanted to end the draft... GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #31

Those were the days. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #33

I don't think this country will ever have another draft. Captain Stern Jul 2013 #36

Part of me agrees with the concept of National Service bluedeathray Jul 2013 #37

This BS gets floated every 6 months to a year. Javaman Jul 2013 #41

So, just remember jonthebru Jul 2013 #44

did I say they couldn't post it? No. Javaman Jul 2013 #45

Not this stupid idea again Lurks Often Jul 2013 #46