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GreenStormCloud

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130. Basically correct. They are has-beens.

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:33 AM

Jul 2013

Let me explain how string pulling works, since you don't seem to understand it.

If you are in power and pull a string, there is ALWAYS a possibility that the favor you do can blow up in your face and come back to haunt you, even years later. There is a risk attacted to every string. With minor favors that risk is very tiny so small favors can be done for the sake of past friendships. But as the size of the favor increases, so does the risk, until it reaches a point (rather rapidly) in which the favor will not be granted without some sort of payback. The risk has to be worth the reward, or it will not be taken. So if you don't have to ability to return favors, then you are bankrupt in the game of influence.

JPs have very little influence, even in their own state.

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Zimmerman's father was NEVER a judge. [View all] GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 OP

Already been established. Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #1

The significance of George Zimmerman's father, JimDandy Jul 2013 #142

But he somehow had the power to influence prosecutors, jurors, etc. Pablo Guachupita Jul 2013 #2

Trial is over. No one gives a fuck. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #3

YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED Skittles Jul 2013 #4

Amen, +1000. (nt) Paladin Jul 2013 #5

+ a brazillion uppityperson Jul 2013 #6

This. Robb Jul 2013 #10

. NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #14

x ten million. Oh, and a *magistrate* isn't connected AT ALL. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #17

Magistrate is what VA calls their JPs. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #29

Oh no. None at all. The "I feared for my life" happened AFTER he talked to his father LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #47

No shit BainsBane Jul 2013 #33

They also most spike the ball and do an end zone dance. Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #34

ya think he/she/it gets it? CatWoman Jul 2013 #38

No shit, Moses2SandyKoufax Jul 2013 #39

They just won't quit. Got to rub it in our faces. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #46

You really expected something different then this gloating? Rex Jul 2013 #57

Not gloating. Fed up with people posting that he was a judge who used influence. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #61

But wasn't that one of the main reasons Zimmerman wasn't arrested right away R B Garr Jul 2013 #65

Yes, they all know that to a T. Rex Jul 2013 #104

no that was one of the absurd conspiracy theories hfojvt Jul 2013 #145

If he knew people on the police force in Florida, then where he was connected doesn't matter R B Garr Jul 2013 #153

but knowing police does not have anything to do with being a magistrate in Va hfojvt Jul 2013 #154

On that police department, the one which did not arrest Zimmerman right away R B Garr Jul 2013 #155

I don't think "clout" had anything to do with how the Sanford police handled this case. onenote Jul 2013 #158

Why? If you are picky over facts how do you know he was not? Rex Jul 2013 #66

He's not picky over facts. If he were, he'd know that they are the same. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #72

Ya another one jumped in like clockwork to tell me Rex Jul 2013 #75

I think ladybug is agreeing with you uppityperson Jul 2013 #78

Not her. Rex Jul 2013 #82

Yes, her. I was agreeing with you. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #86

Ah, sorry uppityperson Jul 2013 #89

NP. Rex Jul 2013 #92

I *was* agreeing with him, you were right. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #95

Yes we have something in common in this thread. Rex Jul 2013 #100

WHAT "further down the thread? nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #90

#87 Rex Jul 2013 #94

#87 was not written by me. what gives? LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #99

Sorry that is who I was refering to. Rex Jul 2013 #101

Ok, but you should tell me a funny story now. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #103

Funny story time. Rex Jul 2013 #140

^^ this ^^ nt. LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #83

Oh yeah! Rex Jul 2013 #88

Glad we worked that out. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #102

Not in Va. dgibby Jul 2013 #159

I'm fed up with a dead kid because of a paranoid racist gun humping piece of SHIT Skittles Jul 2013 #109

That still doesn't make his father a Judge. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #114

del and putting this gun humper on IGNORE Skittles Jul 2013 #117

Love you! Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #63

+1 @ Skittles davidpdx Jul 2013 #91

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #148

Skittles, please run for prez in 2016! bigwillq Jul 2013 #150

+10000000 JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #151

Well, that makes it okay that he stalked and killed an unarmed kid. yewberry Jul 2013 #7

However, he IS a racist asshole who raised a son who murdered a teen one night. uppityperson Jul 2013 #8

Office Of the Magistrate VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #9

He was NOT a judge. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #11

He did adjudicate as noted above... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #18

Compare that to what a JP does in other states. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #31

I gave you the definition of what one does in Virginia... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #105

Because they are the same duties. Only the title is different. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #107

and that meaaannsss???? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #111

That his dad had the duties of a JP, but the title was Magistrate. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #113

So in VA he was a judge. Right. uppityperson Jul 2013 #119

In VIRGINIA VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #122

He didn't even require a law degree. nt hack89 Jul 2013 #12

JPs do more than marry people. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #20

What's the point? pintobean Jul 2013 #13

I got tired of people posted about his daddy being a judge. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #15

One person posted it, so rather than answering him there, you had to start another thread. uppityperson Jul 2013 #16

For weeks I have been posting that to individuals. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #23

Uh huh. Annoys you when someone else does it? uppityperson Jul 2013 #27

He accused me of being that person at first. Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #24

I have to agree. pintobean Jul 2013 #28

Hello there. Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #30

And I apologized for that error. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #37

Fine. But you didn't have to start another thread Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #40

You could go delete the post that says.... uppityperson Jul 2013 #42

Fair request. I was responding to the wrong person. Done. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #44

are you saying he had NO ability to influence based on his profession? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #19

A VA JP is going to have influence in FL? LOL. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #21

Oh you don't really believe THAT do you? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #22

But the people who knew him in Florida knew what he did (in VA) R B Garr Jul 2013 #35

I'm with uppityperson on this one. pintobean Jul 2013 #25

He got away with murder BainsBane Jul 2013 #26

Judge. Magistrate. So what? Fucker fathered a child killer. Octafish Jul 2013 #32

Exactly, dad brought Zman up to be a gun carrying bigot. Hoyt Jul 2013 #48

So he was a 'wanna be' judge in the same manner his kid was a 'wanna be" law enforcement,,,, benld74 Jul 2013 #36

Maybe. But JPs have very little influence to pull strings. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #41

Do you just post here to taunt people who mourned Trayvon's unjustified killing? Ken Burch Jul 2013 #43

Why do people post that his daddy was a judge when he wasn't? GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #50

Just stop. uppityperson Jul 2013 #53

Your post would be somewhat more credible if you hadn't referred to black males as "BMs". Ken Burch Jul 2013 #121

Who cares? yardwork Jul 2013 #45

His son is a murderer. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #49

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #149

at least in WV, a magistrate is one level below judge dlwickham Jul 2013 #51

So is a JP, in most states. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #52

You'd be wrong in your guess onenote Jul 2013 #64

most judges don't handle traffic tickets dlwickham Jul 2013 #124

In Virginia, magistrates are hired onenote Jul 2013 #128

Know who started the DU myth that George's dad was a judge? Just Saying Jul 2013 #54

looks like people ignore the "magistrate" part of "magistrate judge" dlwickham Jul 2013 #123

... Just Saying Jul 2013 #134

STFU already RetroLounge Jul 2013 #55

Zimmerman said his daddy was a judge, why are you splitting hairs here? Rex Jul 2013 #56

It is well establish that Z is a slimeball. I have never denied that. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #58

Why do you believe someone connected with the courts in 1 state would have no string pulling power uppityperson Jul 2013 #59

String pulling power is based on favors. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #85

String pulling is based on history also. Not just on being able to give/take equally. It also is uppityperson Jul 2013 #98

Have you ever listened to the song, "What Have You Done For Me Lately?" GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #108

Hahahahahahahahaha. Fail. Major fail. Influence is not simply based on what you can do now. uppityperson Jul 2013 #110

If you think that you can get major strings pulled "for old times sake", you are naive. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #115

So I guess papabush, cheney, all of them are now powerless. Skull & Bones types means nothing? uppityperson Jul 2013 #116

Basically correct. They are has-beens. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #130

Oh, I understand well, thank you very much. Refusing to acknowledge that there may be unseen uppityperson Jul 2013 #138

Picky over facts? His dad was a judge, they called him a magistrate. Rex Jul 2013 #62

The position was basically the same as a JP in other states. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #67

You do realize that another word for magistrate is judge, right? Rex Jul 2013 #68

Sure. And so is appraiser onenote Jul 2013 #71

He was a judge and did the things judges do, sorry if that bothers you in some way. Rex Jul 2013 #73

He was not permitted to virtually any of the things that a judge does onenote Jul 2013 #79

Of course you are! Rex Jul 2013 #84

Look it up. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #106

How could you possibly know if his dad knows other people in the criminal justice system? uppityperson Jul 2013 #76

Hey they want you to believe a magistrate ain't a judge. Rex Jul 2013 #81

Occam's Razor onenote Jul 2013 #132

Occam's Razor cuts cleanly through many issues. It is sharp indeed. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #139

Except a Virginia magistrate isn't a judge onenote Jul 2013 #69

See post #68. Rex Jul 2013 #70

Since I don't believe anything Zimmerman said, that's of no consequence to me onenote Jul 2013 #74

#68 Rex Jul 2013 #77

We get it. You don't have a response to the fact that the state of Virginia onenote Jul 2013 #87

Meltdown on someone else's time. Rex Jul 2013 #97

I wonder if that means Daddy couldn't help him become a cop on VA Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #60

I was under the impression McPops Jul 2013 #80

Then remove dad from the equation mokawanis Jul 2013 #93

Exactly. onenote Jul 2013 #133

But George Zimmerman is a scumbag... 99Forever Jul 2013 #96

I have no problem with calling Z a scumbag. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #112

They wouldn't have even bagged him on a manslaughter charge McPops Jul 2013 #118

-1 Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2013 #125

His father had enough influence. Those who disagree with you are simply "wrong"? Huh. uppityperson Jul 2013 #120

The jury didn't follow your scenario, JimDandy Jul 2013 #137

In the Commonwealth of MA, Magistrates are political appointees--patronage jobs, basically. MADem Jul 2013 #126

however, his grandfather *was* in the foreign service... and we're not quite sure what zim's HiPointDem Jul 2013 #127

Were you ever a Democrat? nt NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #129

And Virginia is not a state, but rather a commonwealth LanternWaste Jul 2013 #131

Here is my opinion about George Zimmerman supporters... trumad Jul 2013 #135

+100 billh58 Jul 2013 #146

+10000 BainsBane Jul 2013 #147

It's interesting that you go out of your way to clear up any possible Lisa D Jul 2013 #136

It is progressive to hold a person's relatives guilty of the sins of that one person? GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #143

I have to wonder what you think progressive means? BainsBane Jul 2013 #156

I think its clearly more progressive to recognize onenote Jul 2013 #157

I thought he was a real judge in Florida, from the way the story was played JPZenger Jul 2013 #141

At this point JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #144

Your guy got off with a not guilty verdict. Jamastiene Jul 2013 #152