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In reply to the discussion: Attitudes Shift Against Snowden; Fewer than Half Say NSA is Unjustified [View all]KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)71. It isn't working -- they asked a bogus question in order to get the response they wanted
To show a shift in attitudes they would have to ask the same question every 2 weeks or so.
The real threat posed by mass surveillance run by secret courts under secret rules isn't against our privacy. It is what Russ Tice describes:
Tice: Okay. They went afterand I know this because I had my hands literally on the paperwork for these sort of thingsthey went after high-ranking military officers; they went after members of Congress, both Senate and the House, especially on the intelligence committees and on the armed services committees and some of theand judicial. But they went after other ones, too. They went after lawyers and law firms. All kinds ofheaps of lawyers and law firms. They went after judges. One of the judges is now sitting on the Supreme Court that I had his wiretap information in my hand. Two are former FISA court judges. They went after State Department officials. They went after people in the executive service that were part of the White Housetheir own people. They went after antiwar groups. They went after U.S. internationalU.S. companies that that do international business, you know, business around the world. They went after U.S. banking firms and financial firms that do international business. They went after NGOs thatlike the Red Cross, people like that that go overseas and do humanitarian work. They went after a few antiwar civil rights groups. So, you know, dont tell me that theres no abuse, because Ive had this stuff in my hand and looked at it.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/nsa-whistleblower-nsa-spying-on-and-blackmailing-high-level-government-officials-and-military-officers.html
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Attitudes Shift Against Snowden; Fewer than Half Say NSA is Unjustified [View all]
ProSense
Jul 2013
OP
Actually, the MSM did that when they failed so miserably in their journalistic duties
NuclearDem
Jul 2013
#121
It isn't working -- they asked a bogus question in order to get the response they wanted
KurtNYC
Jul 2013
#71
If he had stayed in the US, he'd be detained now and charged under the Espionage Act.
EOTE
Jul 2013
#13
You do know that the Obama administration has more Espionage Act prosecutions than all
EOTE
Jul 2013
#17
See ... it is almost triple. Just need 1 more to make it to police state status.
JoePhilly
Jul 2013
#60
No, I'm not, but if it makes you feel better to think that, go right ahead. n/t
ProSense
Jul 2013
#42
Cheerleading for the CIA & the Carlyle Group while ignoring their crimes is pathetic....
think
Jul 2013
#45
well of the Republicans win the White House they we il be back to extolling the virtues of a
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#66
See? Your continual, repetitive catapulting of conservative propaganda is working!
Zorra
Jul 2013
#88
Popularity contest are indeed, often indicative of little more than what's popular rather than what'
LanternWaste
Jul 2013
#116