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Proud Public Servant

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6. It's the DNC that needs to understand this

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:01 AM

Jul 2013

We will not make gains in the House, and may well lose the Senate, if we treat this as a typical race-by-race midterm. We need to do what the GOP did in 2010: nationalize the midterms and run against the GOP as a party. Remind everyone of what their priorities are and how little they've done for ordinary folks. Drum it in until people would think of voting for Jesus if He appeared on a ballot as J. Christ (R) (though why would He?). That's the way we win.

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Obama vs the Republicans on the economy is the main event this fall. People need to pick a side. [View all] geek tragedy Jul 2013 OP

I hope people realize that just being opposed to the President Peacetrain Jul 2013 #1

The stakes are incredibly important, I just hope people set aside ther personal issues geek tragedy Jul 2013 #2

As a Democrat.. the anti Democrats can Peacetrain Jul 2013 #3

This should be a no brainer Andy823 Jul 2013 #4

And what is the clue that makes you think the President is fighting for the 99%? rhett o rick Jul 2013 #5

You could not be more wrong if you tried. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #7

Obama has had many priorities that he's caved on. Dawgs Jul 2013 #136

What kind of action should he do to get Congress to fund these agencies geek tragedy Jul 2013 #139

How the fuck do I know. He's the President. Dawgs Jul 2013 #144

He's using the bully pulpit today. You support that? nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #146

Why would I care about something that no one will see and won't lead to anything? n/t Dawgs Jul 2013 #148

So, you think he needs to do something, but don't care if he does what he can geek tragedy Jul 2013 #150

Why is it my problem if he can't figure out how to do something. He's the President. Not me. Dawgs Jul 2013 #152

His leanings are defined by who he chooses to implement "his plan". rhett o rick Jul 2013 #138

This discussion is over funding levels. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #142

+1 nt OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #105

+2 Myrina Jul 2013 #129

It's the DNC that needs to understand this Proud Public Servant Jul 2013 #6

Not just the DNC--all Democrats. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #8

Yes, I know-- he's going to leverage the pain of sequestration to push his "Grand Bargain" again. Marr Jul 2013 #9

So, your plan is to ignore the Republicans and oppose Obama geek tragedy Jul 2013 #10

So your plan is to cut Social Security? Marr Jul 2013 #14

Eh, if you can't support Obama when he's fighting to preserve geek tragedy Jul 2013 #16

I've noticed a pattern with these sales pitches. Marr Jul 2013 #25

Who asked you to support Social Security cuts? I'm talking about SPENDING geek tragedy Jul 2013 #28

Don't be coy. You're saying people need to "pick a side". Marr Jul 2013 #33

Obama is making a case this summer for a vision of government that includes geek tragedy Jul 2013 #39

LOL, "A vision of government that includes these kinds of programs"? Marr Jul 2013 #41

Because government is a dynamic not a static process. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #48

This nonsense again. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #19

It may or not happen-- that is unknowable. What is knowable is that Obama made the offer, and Marr Jul 2013 #35

Not happening. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #42

Here's a very easy way to tell which of us is full of shit. Marr Jul 2013 #52

Either you can make a prediction, or not. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #70

No one can know what deal will actually be *passed*. Marr Jul 2013 #106

Pick a side for what? Kickball? We are on the downhill slide of his term. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #11

Do you support the Obama funding levels for those programs geek tragedy Jul 2013 #13

Indifferent. Why should I care about a person that cannot fight the big fights? Safetykitten Jul 2013 #17

Then it's not about the issues for you, it's about your contempt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #20

He is doing quite well on his own, destroying items that we as Democrats care about, thankyou. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #21

You don't care about funding the EPA, Labor Department, developing geek tragedy Jul 2013 #22

Sadly, you just described many on this site. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #249

What?! You have to support the con! Marr Jul 2013 #31

So your prediction is that a deal to cut SS is about to happen, right? JoePhilly Jul 2013 #50

The Bush tax cuts for high incomes did get repealed after the election. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #53

By "People" you mean "me", right? I suspect you don't mean Obama. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #12

If you are indifferent as to whether the EPA gets gutted, then sure geek tragedy Jul 2013 #15

I won't buy the package deal. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #18

Well said...I don't think I'm on either side other than for 'the people'... haikugal Jul 2013 #228

But they're all just pretending to be against each other. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #23

The federal budget is a game for grownups to pay attention to. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #24

If he calls for anything less than utopia, he's corporatist scum AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #27

People are actually explicitly stating they don't care if the EPA budget gets geek tragedy Jul 2013 #30

Being from coal country, with the highest cancer rates in the nation... AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #36

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #161

+1 Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #197

I think I love you again. Just a little bit... Number23 Jul 2013 #250

Calling your fellow Democrats "children" is real mature... YoungDemCA Jul 2013 #254

If people refuse to side with Obama against geek tragedy Jul 2013 #260

My side is my couch NoOneMan Jul 2013 #26

Okay, another person who doesn't give a fuck about the environment geek tragedy Jul 2013 #29

The environment? NoOneMan Jul 2013 #38

We've established that you don't care about what happens in the real world, only geek tragedy Jul 2013 #45

You've established that you like to pretend to know what people care about NoOneMan Jul 2013 #57

We're talking about federal spending. Actual, real world substance. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #67

I am indifferent about this dog and pony show NoOneMan Jul 2013 #75

Yes, your nihilism has been well established. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #78

There are 8 billion equally incompetent people in this world NoOneMan Jul 2013 #100

If you're so indifferent about it all, why the fuck Zoeisright Jul 2013 #127

Just to piss you off NoOneMan Jul 2013 #151

I Trust Bunnahabhain Jul 2013 #32

One doesn't need to trust him to recognize the obvious truth that his budget geek tragedy Jul 2013 #55

+1 ismnotwasm Jul 2013 #34

++1 DCBob Jul 2013 #46

Umm...this is Democratic Underground, we don't need to pick sides. Rex Jul 2013 #37

Besides, we already faxed in our loyalty pledges NoOneMan Jul 2013 #40

Several people have said they're indifferent between Paul Ryan's budget and Obama's. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #43

Oh haven't seen that, ugh. Rex Jul 2013 #54

People say they're indifferent about the differences in spending for the EPA, geek tragedy Jul 2013 #59

You have not seen that because it is not there to be seen. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #62

I would like to see where someone said that Rex Jul 2013 #65

Here is what the poster said to you: Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #80

Several? Where? Cite them with quotes. Your characterizations are not quotes. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #56

Who said that? Marr Jul 2013 #69

link and verbatim quotes geek tragedy Jul 2013 #83

I read that differently. Marr Jul 2013 #102

The question was clear, the answer was clear. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #104

Of course that's not the full quote, of course. And also you claimed 'several' Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #103

People have said they're indifferent regarding the spending levels geek tragedy Jul 2013 #109

No they haven't. haikugal Jul 2013 #230

My side is neither side, I'm afraid. Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #44

Another de facto vote for the Paul Ryan budget. Awesome nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #47

Oh, please. Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #92

Let me ask this again: in the upcoming budget fight geek tragedy Jul 2013 #96

And, again, I say Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #112

You do know we don't get to vote on this stuff, right? djean111 Jul 2013 #154

So, why post here at all then? nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #157

For the information about politics and other things. djean111 Jul 2013 #164

Join me on the couch! NoOneMan Jul 2013 #60

Are you on the fence? Do you sometimes vote for Republians? I sure as hell don't but Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #49

I have never voted for a Republican in my entire lifetime. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #51

Are many of your fellow centrists on the fence? I just don't get where your whole Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #71

We have people in here saying they're indifferent to the amount of money geek tragedy Jul 2013 #76

Note that I am asking you questions about you and your allies. You do not respond. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #95

Examples of "Obama/Ryan budgets, I don't care" geek tragedy Jul 2013 #98

You edited that quote to your tastes and it sure is not 'several people said this' Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #107

I do not consider people who are indifferent between 0% and 34% cuts to the EPA geek tragedy Jul 2013 #111

And you have one person who didn't really say that, you claim several people said Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #137

"Maybe it is too damn bad Romney wasn't elected. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #101

You forgot Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Hamsher, Snowden, Chomsky, Hedges,....... Fuddnik Jul 2013 #74

Someone in here--purportedly from the left--wishes Mitt Romney had won. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #82

you've exposed the bitter people exquisitely. dionysus Jul 2013 #245

+1 nt Zorra Jul 2013 #87

I wish there were more than two sides on this. Apophis Jul 2013 #58

If Obama wins Bunnahabhain Jul 2013 #84

What does he win? Apophis Jul 2013 #175

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #61

"Maybe it is too damn bad Romney wasn't elected" geek tragedy Jul 2013 #72

Too bad you don't have a time machine JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #77

That's ALL you got out of this? Amazing. nt matthews Jul 2013 #86

Some have comprehension issues. Fuddnik Jul 2013 #93

+1 Willfully so. woo me with science Jul 2013 #110

To put one issue to rest, I am a Liberal Democrat matthews Jul 2013 #115

I do not believe you. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #117

And I don't care what you believe. nt matthews Jul 2013 #120

Let's see, someone who joined one week ago and has already geek tragedy Jul 2013 #122

You have reading comprehension problems. It isn't a PREFERENCE for matthews Jul 2013 #147

Oh, so you're one of those people who's ignorant of the differences geek tragedy Jul 2013 #149

There's only ONE ignorant person involved in this 'discussion' and it sure matthews Jul 2013 #153

I've seen plenty of morons post that Obama=Bush. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #156

Let us know when you're inducted into MENSA. Until then I'll just say, matthews Jul 2013 #165

you Better Believe It! nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #168

I do believe it. And I'm glad you agree with what I posted matthews Jul 2013 #170

Your sneaking suspicions all turn out to be false, so probably not. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #171

And you opinion is worth more than someone else's because________________ matthews Jul 2013 #172

oh burn, i'm so humiliated. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #173

And I'm so (un)impressed. nt matthews Jul 2013 #191

Well, you can always follow your hero Mitt for inspiration. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #192

Good God, you're obtuse. nt matthews Jul 2013 #194

Why is it that you and alot of your pals Puglover Jul 2013 #176

that person started at DU by attacking an Obama supporter geek tragedy Jul 2013 #178

As are new posters who immediatly attack other Democrats on this site Puglover Jul 2013 #180

The person that individual attacked is a long-time DUer. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #181

So alert Mirt. Puglover Jul 2013 #182

Eh, one of two things will happen. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #183

For one, I didn't attack and the post got hidden. Which was okay. matthews Jul 2013 #196

I didn't 'attack' anyone. I just found it almost impossible to matthews Jul 2013 #193

You have 234 posts in a week. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #195

So? I'm aiming to be a one hundred thousand posts on record timers. matthews Jul 2013 #198

'you people?' geek tragedy Jul 2013 #200

Yep. Now tie that in with Mitt and the Tea Party. I'll give you matthews Jul 2013 #203

It was a refreshing moment of candor from you, geek tragedy Jul 2013 #205

Critical thinking is definitely NOT your strong point. nt matthews Jul 2013 #209

Cheer up. You can always volunteer for Jindal in 2016. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #212

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #213

So what Puglover Jul 2013 #217

Nothing wrong with it, the person was expressing amazement geek tragedy Jul 2013 #218

I believe her. woo me with science Jul 2013 #128

Of course you do. I bet you also think Obama did the same stuff geek tragedy Jul 2013 #130

The spying Obama is presiding over woo me with science Jul 2013 #140

Thank you. Thank you very much. And I'm glad that someone matthews Jul 2013 #155

So, you're completely ignorant of US history as well. Figured as much. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #174

Ah! Now its the Teahaddists. Whatever you say Kreskin. matthews Jul 2013 #201

You think I've never seen a purity troll before? nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #202

I don't really think you have any clue as to what or who you've seen before. nt matthews Jul 2013 #204

The rest was boiler plate Obama hatred and the usual lies geek tragedy Jul 2013 #116

You wish. The truth must make you feel really insecure. You matthews Jul 2013 #119

I think the debate is over JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #123

No, you are just lying when it comes to the claim that Obama committed the crimes geek tragedy Jul 2013 #125

And you are? Constantly supporting acts and policies that are hurtful and matthews Jul 2013 #132

Your claim that Obama committed the crimes that forced Nixon out geek tragedy Jul 2013 #134

Whoa, you'd better take something before you have an episode and matthews Jul 2013 #141

Heh. I guess vague speculation is preferable to outright mendacity nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #143

Thanks geek JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #121

Shh. We are supposed to pretend woo me with science Jul 2013 #113

Ground Hog's Day. What a PERFECT analogy. I wish I was matthews Jul 2013 #118

Excellent post DJ13 Jul 2013 #131

Thank you. nt matthews Jul 2013 #133

who were you last time? dionysus Jul 2013 #237

What the hell is wrong with you? I'm me.Always have been. matthews Jul 2013 #243

sure pal. dionysus Jul 2013 #244

Ha ha. I'd hate to be that insecure. On a message board? matthews Jul 2013 #246

how are supposed to make the Republicans pay? G_j Jul 2013 #63

If people realize how badly the Republicans' budget would screw them, they'll geek tragedy Jul 2013 #73

so you are talking about educating people G_j Jul 2013 #88

At the same time, people need to understand that their local Republican geek tragedy Jul 2013 #91

The problem is they are both on the side of cuts and austerity vi5 Jul 2013 #64

+ 1000 djean111 Jul 2013 #68

They are not on the same side. We're talking about the entire structure geek tragedy Jul 2013 #89

Yes, and I support that structure and want it strengthened. vi5 Jul 2013 #159

Obama has not pursued austerity--he pursued aggressive deficit spending geek tragedy Jul 2013 #162

Once the Republicans and the media decided austerity was the way to go.... vi5 Jul 2013 #167

I don't think he's going to appoint Summers. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #169

I find it amazing that anyone thinks what "side" we choose makes a damned bit of difference. djean111 Jul 2013 #66

I'll always take the Democratic party side. But will Obama? nt Zorra Jul 2013 #79

it is time to give up on DU for activism against Republicans, geek tragedy emulatorloo Jul 2013 #81

This is a site for people who are anti-everything, not those who geek tragedy Jul 2013 #85

I'm on the side that is against cuts to safety nets, against a bloated military budget Autumn Jul 2013 #90

One side is significantly closer to what you want than the other. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #94

This is where their false equivalency succumbs to COLD HARD FACTS. great white snark Jul 2013 #97

I hear you greek tragedy! Iliyah Jul 2013 #99

The only "side" I am on is the American People. Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2013 #108

I think we should support the parts of his agenda that we . . . support. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #114

Probably almost all of us would oppose those draconian cuts. But we should not totodeinhere Jul 2013 #124

Well said. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #126

Do we have any Democrats in Congress? Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #135

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #145

Sorry, this is DU... SidDithers Jul 2013 #158

^^^^^^^^^ THIS IS THE BOTTOM LINE^^^^^^^^^ pkdu Jul 2013 #227

You nailed it, Sid. And then they'll sit back with their mouths open wondering why no one Number23 Jul 2013 #251

I fully support the President in this. octoberlib Jul 2013 #160

The choice is between fascism (Republicans) and center-right policy (Dems). Only the HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #163

You're espousing 'Center-right' policy? Really? nt matthews Jul 2013 #166

Whenever one's choices include voting against fascism (or neo-fascism), as will be the HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #189

Democracy. As it was meant to be.nt matthews Jul 2013 #190

Your opinion is noted. LWolf Jul 2013 #177

This isn't about who you like better or dislike less geek tragedy Jul 2013 #179

You're right there. LWolf Jul 2013 #186

There are parts of his agenda I support, and parts I oppose, geek tragedy Jul 2013 #187

Perhaps Obama should stop kicking his troops MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #184

Obama doesn't have any 'troops', and he's not kicking anyone in the teeth. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #185

Not any more, he doesn't. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #188

LOL! ProSense Jul 2013 #206

. dionysus Jul 2013 #211

Must be true if you say it, "Crossroads" Manny. emulatorloo Jul 2013 #222

and like moths to a flame, the disgruntled former dems and greens bleat against your dionysus Jul 2013 #199

+1. You Better Believe it! FSogol Jul 2013 #208

K&R Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #207

why you kickin me!?!? PUT EM UP11!!! dionysus Jul 2013 #210

I'm already under attack from the ASS-Wald/OathKeeping Snowdenistas, I don't wanna... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #216

for that i'ma gonna knock the ice cream cone out of your hand!11 *thwap* dionysus Jul 2013 #224

Now who's gonna clean that up, ya big ol' meanie! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #233

! dionysus Jul 2013 #236

IDK how Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #214

Same thinking as someone who believes that if you put an ice cube geek tragedy Jul 2013 #215

What do you mean "pick a side"? D23MIURG23 Jul 2013 #219

No, but when Obama lays out a contrast with the Republicans in terms of geek tragedy Jul 2013 #220

By doing what exactly? You didn't answer my question. n/t D23MIURG23 Jul 2013 #221

Dunno, what do activists usually do? emulatorloo Jul 2013 #223

I'll do that when Obama gives me some reason to. D23MIURG23 Jul 2013 #225

Cool, you'll love the Teabag Budget then! emulatorloo Jul 2013 #234

If my war metaphor is ridiculous hyperbole, then fighting clearly isn't worth my time. D23MIURG23 Jul 2013 #238

Your post title is incoherent emulatorloo Jul 2013 #247

Nate Silver: Senate Control in 2014 Increasingly Looks Like a Tossup PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #226

Both sides want to cut Social Security. I'm on the side of the 99% which Obama is NOT. forestpath Jul 2013 #229

what a steaming pile of elephant shit. nt dionysus Jul 2013 #239

You are too kind in your analysis n/t emulatorloo Jul 2013 #248

This needs to get cut. Of course the repukes won't do that. muntrv Jul 2013 #231

Which Side... Would That Be ??? - Which One Works For Us ??? WillyT Jul 2013 #232

Clearly the teabaggers! emulatorloo Jul 2013 #235

The math was too hard for you? nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #241

Nah... I Realize You And Your Buddies Are Having Fun Here... WillyT Jul 2013 #242

I support President Obama AC_Mem Jul 2013 #240

Ah, the Loyalty Oath deamands. . . Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #252

No, try one month. Federal budget. Next time geek tragedy Jul 2013 #256

Oh, please. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #259

No, it's fucking reality. Budget debate is very real. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #261

You guys are such onesies. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #262

Sorry the federal budget is too adult of a topic geek tragedy Jul 2013 #263

I'll pass YoungDemCA Jul 2013 #253

John Boehner appreciates your complacency. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #257

Where is the president's plan? Doctor_J Jul 2013 #255

Obama released his budget months ago. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #258