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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
83. I don't understand
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 12:43 PM
Jul 2013

I thought that most of the people here totally supported the Police. Shouldn't we leave it to the people of that town to decide. After all that was the excuse from those who defended the actions of the Police in the Watertown area when they stormed the streets in armored cars and machine guns. The answer we got when questioning this was an overwhelming (from people here on DU) shout that the People of Boston turned out to cheer the Police. We were told, if we weren't there, we had no right to comment on the tactics the police used. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022747864

4. Why are the only objections to that search coming from people who are not even from the area?
5. Where is even one resident of that area or neighborhood raising a stink about that search?


Now, we're being told the same thing regarding the despicable behavior of Anthony Weiner. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023328643

So here is my point friends. Either you have principles, and your ideals are based upon those principles, or you have inconsistencies from issue to issue and are mocked by the rest as having a hypocritical sense of right and wrong. We demand that the Government do something to fix what is wrong in Florida, while demanding that everyone butt out of what happened in Boston/Watertown. We demand that everyone get together and force this ass of a Police Chief out of his job, while demanding on the same day that the People of New York get to decide what happens with Anthony Weiner.

Principles, applied fairly, to every incident is the only way to go. It is principle over party, core principles applied to every situation. Right is never wrong, and wrong is never right this way. We avoid the image of hypocrisy, and we are a better people, and a better party because of it. Or we can keep doing what we are, flitting from one side of an issue, arguing that the locals should decide (Watertown) and then flit to the other side of the same issue demanding that people take action to stop the locals (Florida).

Your principles must be sound, and applied equally. Otherwise we are always going to be driving our supporters away, and that is what we can't do if we want to win elections, and get a majority of the people behind us. So decide, first for yourselves, and then argue your position here. Is principle going to be a driving force in our party, or are we going to continue flitting from issue to incident and deciding on a case by case basis what our beliefs are this week?

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The mayor needs to be sustained continuous pressure to order Kessler's resignation Mr. David Jul 2013 #1
I googled the mayor and here she is on 'Heels and Handguns' so good luck w/her getting him under CurtEastPoint Jul 2013 #7
The idiot isn't operating at full capacity snooper2 Jul 2013 #48
Apparently he forgot to load his beta C mag. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #60
Yeah, real believer in free speech there. caseymoz Jul 2013 #72
Exactly titanicdave Jul 2013 #53
Why is someone "warning about" anti-government insurrection annabanana Jul 2013 #2
Perhaps he's too stupid to realize he works for the government arcane1 Jul 2013 #59
My thoughts exactly Sherman A1 Jul 2013 #69
Rebelling against oneself can lead to blindness arcane1 Jul 2013 #76
I thought that was something else, Sherman A1 Jul 2013 #89
No kidding. The stoopid - it burns. KentuckyWoman Jul 2013 #105
Oh, lookie...he has his own website: The "Constitution Security Force" Wonder what that is... CurtEastPoint Jul 2013 #3
Well @ least he is well written Botany Jul 2013 #14
And historically illiterate. arcane1 Jul 2013 #58
Does his interpretation of the First Amendment allow for burning crosses on AA's yards, too? freshwest Jul 2013 #77
Yes...gaze into that abyss.... xocet Jul 2013 #73
That seems to go beyond "free speech"! femmocrat Jul 2013 #4
Wow. JNelson6563 Jul 2013 #5
I imagine that they love it Orrex Jul 2013 #13
Scary. JNelson6563 Jul 2013 #16
No problem. Orrex Jul 2013 #18
And, chiefy is a real poor loser. Cha Jul 2013 #108
If one is to believe the Heels and Handguns article-- they love it... TreasonousBastard Jul 2013 #35
He just wants attention. caseymoz Jul 2013 #78
Fun fact: Gilberton has a population of 867 Orrex Jul 2013 #6
lol ctsnowman Jul 2013 #36
He is looking for handouts for a new police cruiser snooper2 Jul 2013 #50
"gofundme".. it just gets Cha Jul 2013 #110
Why would anyone trust this evolutionary throwback hifiguy Jul 2013 #114
It invites the response: go fund yourself struggle4progress Jul 2013 #116
lol.. time for "an armed insurrection" against Cha Jul 2013 #109
The crime of the year was someone cheating at 'Bingo. ' Dash87 Jul 2013 #119
So a member of the police force is going to lead an anti-government JoePhilly Jul 2013 #8
I was thinking the same thing. Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #32
Heres his FB page.... bunnies Jul 2013 #9
Jeebus. I went to his FB page, read some comments and then click on THOSE people and OMFG CurtEastPoint Jul 2013 #15
Sick arent they? bunnies Jul 2013 #17
Posted without comment: UTUSN Jul 2013 #21
'ems sum good ole boyz CurtEastPoint Jul 2013 #22
Hmmmmm... AlbertCat Jul 2013 #30
LOL! LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #44
I love your signature line. Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #39
:) bunnies Jul 2013 #45
SO glad I was born in his county. :-P WinkyDink Jul 2013 #10
Everybody needs to see that video Botany Jul 2013 #11
a confederate flag on his shirt, AlbertCat Jul 2013 #37
I would like to take issue with your assessment of Pennsylvania Orrex Jul 2013 #43
As James Carville said aablout Pennsylvania.. KinMd Jul 2013 #98
He's right, sadly. But... Orrex Jul 2013 #100
Ugh. Pennsyltucky. Patiod Jul 2013 #94
A douchebag and an idiot. nt City Lights Jul 2013 #12
Fire him for his rebellion fantasies Capt. Obvious Jul 2013 #19
Just another responsible, Republican gun owner.. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #20
+++ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2013 #64
One wonders just how long he would have kept his job had he been on the other side n2doc Jul 2013 #23
This! nt Phillyindy Jul 2013 #29
Yep! Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #33
Exactly. ctsnowman Jul 2013 #38
Everything else aside this guy is a huge liability Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #24
Kessler -- another nazi heard from. nt. Mc Mike Jul 2013 #25
Hey libtards! His videos are in support of the constitution! Capt. Obvious Jul 2013 #26
"Am I totally insane? You bet you GD ass I'm insane!" JoePhilly Jul 2013 #34
"Is it my right to do that?" AlbertCat Jul 2013 #40
Not sure where to start. flt rsk Jul 2013 #81
Loved your analysis, fit risk.. you Cha Jul 2013 #111
I live around here... Phillyindy Jul 2013 #27
This is why we need high speed rail in PA. johnp3907 Jul 2013 #95
Upstate NY isn't any different. nt adirondacker Jul 2013 #106
I lived in upstate NY for 12 years( 1998-2010) in Cha Jul 2013 #112
ooooh! Is he available if Ray Kelly doesn't want the Homeland Security job? djean111 Jul 2013 #28
Amendment Rights are not absolute lobodons Jul 2013 #31
Another tough talking asshole... azbillyboy Jul 2013 #41
Prima facie evidence that the "Libtards" in this cop's town have little or no protection. Paladin Jul 2013 #42
Sounds like our own police staters... kenny blankenship Jul 2013 #46
And they wonder why we call them gun nuts. mikeysnot Jul 2013 #47
I just have four questions to ask about the sheriff. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #49
So TED NUGENT landed a job already??? AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 #51
Just what we need as the economy is in full recovery ffr Jul 2013 #56
I am sure this guy is probably a full on Racist.. AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 #67
The ecenomy is NOT in full revovery. n/t tazkcmo Jul 2013 #102
That "Armed Rebellion" cynzke Jul 2013 #52
In the movies, this is when Gene Hackman and Denzel Washington arrive in town. leveymg Jul 2013 #54
Having lived near this kind of people... bobclark86 Jul 2013 #62
WTF is the "Constitutional Security Force"? & "Much like hitlers nazis, time we clean these anti- leveymg Jul 2013 #87
Shooting what he says are images of federal officials, tblue37 Jul 2013 #118
If he were brown-skinned and Muslim, it would be a federal crime. leveymg Jul 2013 #120
I wonder what his FR user name is? LibertyLover Jul 2013 #55
It just exposes them more Gore1FL Jul 2013 #57
Uh, she's "standing by her police chief"? louis-t Jul 2013 #61
He's the entire police force; she's the 'mayor'. Put 2+2 together... LeftinOH Jul 2013 #85
I don't mind him having a voice and expressing himself AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #63
He sounds unstable... bobclark86 Jul 2013 #65
Perhaps they should 2naSalit Jul 2013 #66
They need a new police chief ASAP. Apophis Jul 2013 #68
The kind of idiot damnedifIknow Jul 2013 #70
"Gilberton police chief wounded by own gun during bar incident" Contrary1 Jul 2013 #71
That man should be removed from office immediately. And the next person he arrests should sue. nolabear Jul 2013 #74
A gungeoneer russ1943 Jul 2013 #75
Any evidence that he's a gungeoneer? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #88
Why Do ALL Teabaggers Love Caeser67 Jul 2013 #79
Good question! I don't think they just love it, they LOOOOOOVE IT! Initech Jul 2013 #93
Confederate flag on his shirt GlashFordan Jul 2013 #80
Chief Kessler's apology Botany Jul 2013 #82
Looks like he's at an abandoned strip mine creeksneakers2 Jul 2013 #104
I don't understand Savannahmann Jul 2013 #83
what.a.fucking.loon. he needs to be fired. Saphire Jul 2013 #84
I think this dude needs locked up in someone elses jail. Hubert Flottz Jul 2013 #86
He makes Florida look sane! Scurrilous Jul 2013 #90
Hello district attorney? shenmue Jul 2013 #91
Where the Hula Popper Jul 2013 #92
Ah another responsible gun owner. Initech Jul 2013 #96
WTF?! sakabatou Jul 2013 #97
I put that in google maps Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #99
Although flattering that he wants to fuck our asses, we don't swing that way. ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #101
"Libtard"? What is this guy like 8 years old? eom Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #103
Fine. Now we know where the ignorant ass mayor, Mary Lou Hannon, of Gilberton, PA Cha Jul 2013 #107
The inbred dumbasses just cannot stop displaying hifiguy Jul 2013 #113
The police chief is loony tunes............nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #115
Let them know what you think.... chillin2d8 Jul 2013 #117
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