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BlueStreak

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1. This is not the Party you think you know.

Reply to xocet (Original post)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:38 PM

Jul 2013

It was a simple amendment. All it said was that they had to follow the Constitution and only collect information on specific people where there is probable cause.

And that amendment, if passed into law, would have shut down vast operations -- some of the largest data centers in the world. We aren't allowed to know how much we spend on these unconstitutional activities, but it is surely tens of billions, if not hundreds of billions a year.

It wouldn't have mattered. Obama would have used his 3rd veto in 5 years on that one. And even if it were law, the NSA would simply ignore it. They could bring back Gonzales to write an opinion why the NSA doesn't have to follow any laws.

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Limitation of the NSA in the U.S. House: Roll Call for the Failed Amash Amendment 217-205 [View all] xocet Jul 2013 OP

This is not the Party you think you know. BlueStreak Jul 2013 #1

Shocked, I tell ya...shocked....not nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #2

How true.... xocet Jul 2013 #3

Davis and Pelosi were not surprising since nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #5

OMG, the NSA is blackmailing everyone! randome Jul 2013 #4

No one said anything about blackmail except you. n/t xocet Jul 2013 #7

I haven't found the actual amendment yet, but as it's described, it sounds reasonable: KittyWampus Jul 2013 #12

Congress needs to learn, and inform us, then... randome Jul 2013 #22

Ros-Lehtinen, Diaz-Balart, Garcia, Wasserman Schultz, Wilson, Frankel. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #6

Obama put his thumb on the scale to shift the balance. Otherwise this would have passed. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #8

Obama and his loyalists can no longer say they never got the support of Republicans on anything n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #9

that's for sure. it cut across party lines limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #10

Surprised Duckworth (WI) voted 'No'. I remember her as having a much more solid HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #11

Duckworth Is Illinois... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #19

I am getting senile with old age. Somehow, I confused Tammy Duckworth (IL) with HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #24

It's OK... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #25

"On what grounds would Democrats object to this amendment?" jazzimov Jul 2013 #13

That is not a bad commentary - once you got past the snide part. n/t xocet Jul 2013 #17

It's not over. octoberlib Jul 2013 #14

It's very encouraging to see this determination. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #16

Wow, Sensenbrenner voted for it. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #15

The Convergence of the �Glenn Greenwald Left� and the �Alex Jones Right� Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author xocet Jul 2013 #23

What an upside down world GlashFordan Jul 2013 #20

It could be those four felt the bill didn't go far enough davidpdx Jul 2013 #21