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Gregorian

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20. Civilized. Isn't that the goal of having a society? A government?
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:49 PM
Feb 2012

Like an economist once said, we're supposed to be getting the benefits of a group purchase. But instead we're paying individually. So we aren't civilized.

I remember Freedom Fries. If the mere mention of one of the only true civilized countries on earth is shunned, then god help us with the bigger things, like health care.

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Another indictment of our shameful, for-profit system, where wealthy corporate "world citizens"... Scuba Feb 2012 #1
Yep... WCGreen Feb 2012 #2
The numbers are just obscene. woo me with science Feb 2012 #15
And we could use Medicare/Medicaid payout cuts to lower costs from doctors and facilities RB TexLa Feb 2012 #3
USA! USA! USA! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #4
Du rec. Nt xchrom Feb 2012 #5
Well at least we did something about that. JoeyT Feb 2012 #6
Right, and if they get sick they are expected to pay 20-30% out of pocket, so Yo_Mama Feb 2012 #7
There was a lot of talk when this passed about "fixing it later." woo me with science Feb 2012 #12
Elizabeth explains it best. mick063 Feb 2012 #8
The health insurance industry is a parasite. Civilized countries have national health care. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2012 #9
+1 woo me with science Feb 2012 #13
+1 ...simply and powerfully put... Agony Feb 2012 #18
Americans can always go to prison to get healthcare. *sarcasm* n/t shcrane71 Feb 2012 #25
As Michael Moore noted in SiCKO, theaocp Feb 2012 #10
You make an excellent point. woo me with science Feb 2012 #14
Recced. pecwae Feb 2012 #11
but but but... if we help each other get universal healthcare we will be commies! fascisthunter Feb 2012 #16
Yep, this has been true for years now. Brigid Feb 2012 #17
OK... now what? Agony Feb 2012 #19
Civilized. Isn't that the goal of having a society? A government? Gregorian Feb 2012 #20
this is reality and the system can't continue lovuian Feb 2012 #21
k & r surrealAmerican Feb 2012 #22
THIS is what I and others resent when we talk about taxes Bonobo Feb 2012 #23
Totally Agree! The disconnect with the American population on this issue astounds me. shcrane71 Feb 2012 #26
And MOST of can't fire our health insurance company despite what Mitt says csziggy Feb 2012 #24
Well, it's a darn good thing we fixed that problem by making sure people are...umm...insured. progressoid Feb 2012 #27
Thom Hartmann interviewed a major Dutch pol who NEVER heard of such a thing Bozita Feb 2012 #28
Before Romneycare in MA, 59% of bankruptcies were due to health care expenses eridani Feb 2012 #29
Back in the 70's HeiressofBickworth Feb 2012 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author old man 76 Feb 2012 #31
I'm afraid "Obamacare" won't change this much. Vinca Feb 2012 #32
.. mdmc Feb 2012 #34
That article is from 2/2/2005 abelenkpe Feb 2012 #33
Kick. nt woo me with science Mar 2012 #35
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