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grantcart

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21. I have a good friend who is a judge and when his daughter was cited with a speeding ticket
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:55 AM
Jul 2013

he appeared and had a few questions for the officer.

He asked the officer about the radar gun that was being used and asked about the calibration schedule and certification, ie when was the last time the gun was calibrated and certified and was beyond the manufacturers recommendation period of time had the read on the gun thrown out and the ticket dismissed.

Don't know if you have enough time to investigate what instrument was being used and so on but you seem industrious so I share it with you.

My guess is that the officer went back and checked on the rule found out that he was wrong and will be a no show at the hearing.

After the hearing you should make an official complaint to the police review board, especially regarding his badgering you about "where you work". He should have stuck to the issues at hand.

edited to add never mind: I see from the thread above that you already covered calibration.

I think it is fair to get the cop on the stand and point out that he was angry that you challenged him on the law and that he has a history of anger problems and that is why he added X number of MPHs to the ticket. You can ask him if he still thinks he is correct about the insurance part of the law and if he is wrong about that then it is also possible he is wrong about the exact speed. Ask him what the tolerance is in the watch he uses and if he says none then you can undermine that point because there is always some tolerance.

I disagree with the comments about the judges siding with police officers. They do have sympathy for good police officers but they are very pissed at lazy prosecutors and sloppy policeman (unless they are a lazy judge) and generally like it when citizens stand up.

One more point: they are bored. They see the same ole thing over and over again. If you show them something unusual you will make their morning, and always show maximum respect for the court.

Good luck.

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So, this scumbag is an Arizona State Trooper? TheDebbieDee Jul 2013 #1
I'm white. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #2
Also, he's Highway Patrol. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #4
Good job. Just imagine all the DevonRex Jul 2013 #3
He was accused of excessive force in 2009 against a minor. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #5
Jesus. I'm glad you got out of there DevonRex Jul 2013 #6
He also caused a "preventable car accident". I'm trying to find that report right now. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #8
preventable car accident is a phrase that covers a multitude, it could be he backed into something loli phabay Jul 2013 #12
you should win on the insurance ticket but you will probuably lose on the speed loli phabay Jul 2013 #7
I'm not actually sure as I was not looking at my speedometer. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #9
if your honest when you go to court, the judge will drop the insurance ticket loli phabay Jul 2013 #11
I am not so optimistic about the judge amending the speed to 70. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #13
from experience if you just use facts the judge should drop the insurance ticket loli phabay Jul 2013 #14
Nice work citizen! Sincerely. Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #10
I'm going to go against the grain here Savannahmann Jul 2013 #15
There was no audio, video or officer notes. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #16
Then it comes down to your word versus his. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #18
I've been to court before. I know I will probably lose on the speeding ticket. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #20
I have a good friend who is a judge and when his daughter was cited with a speeding ticket grantcart Jul 2013 #21
It was VASCAR. It is not required to undergo calibration testing. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #22
I edited while you responded and added some more comments as well - good luck grantcart Jul 2013 #23
Did you get the tickets dismissed? (nt) apnu Jul 2013 #17
I have court on Monday. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #19
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