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octoberlib

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14. It's not over.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:01 AM
Jul 2013
House members pressing to rein in the N.S.A. vowed afterward that the outrage unleashed by Mr. Snowden’s disclosures would eventually put a brake on the agency’s activities. Representative Jerrold Nadler, Democrat of New York and a longtime critic of post-Sept. 11 counterterrorism efforts, said lawmakers would keep coming back with legislation to curtail the dragnets for “metadata,” whether through phone records or Internet surveillance.

At the very least, the section of the Patriot Act in question will be allowed to expire in 2015, he said. “It’s going to end — now or later,” Mr. Nadler said. “The only question is when and on what terms.”

Representative Jared Polis, Democrat of Colorado and a supporter of the amendment, said that if the Obama administration felt strongly about defending the program, Mr. Obama would have spoken out personally. Instead, the White House released a statement under the name of the press secretary, Jay Carney.

“This is only the beginning,” Mr. Conyers vowed after the vote. The fight will shift to the Senate, where two longtime Democratic critics of N.S.A. surveillance, Mark Udall of Colorado and Ron Wyden of Oregon, immediately took up the cause.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/us/politics/house-defeats-effort-to-rein-in-nsa-data-gathering.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes

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This is not the Party you think you know. BlueStreak Jul 2013 #1
Shocked, I tell ya...shocked....not nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #2
How true.... xocet Jul 2013 #3
Davis and Pelosi were not surprising since nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #5
OMG, the NSA is blackmailing everyone! randome Jul 2013 #4
No one said anything about blackmail except you. n/t xocet Jul 2013 #7
I haven't found the actual amendment yet, but as it's described, it sounds reasonable: KittyWampus Jul 2013 #12
Congress needs to learn, and inform us, then... randome Jul 2013 #22
Ros-Lehtinen, Diaz-Balart, Garcia, Wasserman Schultz, Wilson, Frankel. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #6
Obama put his thumb on the scale to shift the balance. Otherwise this would have passed. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #8
Obama and his loyalists can no longer say they never got the support of Republicans on anything n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #9
that's for sure. it cut across party lines limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #10
Surprised Duckworth (WI) voted 'No'. I remember her as having a much more solid HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #11
Duckworth Is Illinois... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #19
I am getting senile with old age. Somehow, I confused Tammy Duckworth (IL) with HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #24
It's OK... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #25
"On what grounds would Democrats object to this amendment?" jazzimov Jul 2013 #13
That is not a bad commentary - once you got past the snide part. n/t xocet Jul 2013 #17
It's not over. octoberlib Jul 2013 #14
It's very encouraging to see this determination. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #16
Wow, Sensenbrenner voted for it. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #15
The Convergence of the ‘Glenn Greenwald Left’ and the ‘Alex Jones Right’ Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author xocet Jul 2013 #23
What an upside down world GlashFordan Jul 2013 #20
It could be those four felt the bill didn't go far enough davidpdx Jul 2013 #21
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