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Douglas Carpenter

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1. wow - some weird coalitions

Reply to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:44 AM

Jul 2013

Conservative Republicans leery of what they see as Obama administration abuses of power teamed up with liberal Democrats long opposed to intrusive intelligence programs. The Obama administration made common cause with the House Republican leadership to try to block it.

The amendment to the annual Defense Department spending bill, written by Representatives Justin Amash, a libertarian Republican from Western Michigan, and John Conyers Jr., a veteran liberal Democrat from Detroit, turned Democrat against Democrat and Republican against Republican.

It would have limited N.S.A. phone surveillance to specific targets of law enforcement investigations, not broad dragnets. It was only one of a series of proposals — including restricting funds for Syrian rebels and adding Congressional oversight to foreign aid to Egypt — intended to check President Obama’s foreign and intelligence policies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/us/politics/house-defeats-effort-to-rein-in-nsa-data-gathering.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&

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The Obama administration made common cause with the House Republican leadership to try to block it. [View all] Luminous Animal Jul 2013 OP

wow - some weird coalitions Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #1

nsa is a unifier RobertEarl Jul 2013 #5

We can get restrictions on the program, just not by this grandstanding struggle4progress Jul 2013 #2

Exactly. This wouldn't have passed the senate anyway Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #3

I doubt if it would have passed the House either: showboating legislation like this, that fails struggle4progress Jul 2013 #11

Yeah, that's exactly what happened if you watch the CSPAN replay. joshcryer Jul 2013 #12

Your post #9 actually makes that point better than my speculations struggle4progress Jul 2013 #15

When Obama makes common cause with R's to defeat a bill delrem Jul 2013 #14

IMO Obama simply asked Congress to take appropriately deliberative and informed action, struggle4progress Jul 2013 #16

just like they did with USAPATRIOT frylock Jul 2013 #19

Boy ya know this country is really going down the shitter. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #4

But remember.... YoungDemCA Jul 2013 #6

In The House - the Amash amendment failed, but the Pompeo amendment passed. n/t Tx4obama Jul 2013 #7

Pompeo just says NSA can't target US citizens. joshcryer Jul 2013 #10

And, the good doggies did what their masters told them to do. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #8

21 out of 23 House Intelligence members voted against it. joshcryer Jul 2013 #9

Wait. I am getting my good cops and bad cops woo me with science Jul 2013 #13

Political grandstanding railsback Jul 2013 #17

The choice between more evil and less evil, is still evil. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #18