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RobertEarl

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29. Chernobyl

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:49 AM

Jul 2013

The science from the Chernobyl incident details the alteration in the immediate area. Don't have links, but search can help you.

Been a bird watcher for 30 years. About 1990 is when the bird populations began to dwindle. They are now plunging.

Something is causing all these changes I and others have seen. The correlation with nuclear is worthy of studying.

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K&R! Segami Jul 2013 #1

K&R MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #2

Nuclear radiation? Nah. RobertEarl Jul 2013 #3

Are you attempting to argue that your apple tree is sick because of Fukushima? Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #4

Fukushima? What happened? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #10

You really seriously have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to this subject. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #12

He's being obtuse, like a good Amurikan siligut Jul 2013 #17

He or she once suggested that Fukushima was heating the Pacific. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #18

So instead of god's will, everything is the fault of nuclear waste? siligut Jul 2013 #20

Ever seen such? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #22

Sure, two flowers on one plant, but not two heads on one stem siligut Jul 2013 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Lordquinton Jul 2013 #27

This woman agrees with you on your theory: DRoseDARs Jul 2013 #26

" We as a nation have to ask ourselves: 'What the hell is going on?'" Volaris Jul 2013 #31

Yeah, I remember seeing them as a kid jumping through sprinklers... JHB Jul 2013 #64

Let me guess.... AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 #89

I knew it! zappaman Jul 2013 #111

Well, if you saw hardly any dandelions this year AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #32

Dandelions are nearing extinction where I live. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #39

"Dandelions are nearing extinction where I live." greiner3 Jul 2013 #40

You fail to understand. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #45

It's more likely that other plants are taking over their niche. Chemisse Jul 2013 #112

No. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #128

Two headed flowers happen all the time. bunnies Jul 2013 #72

Come to my house...I have thousands. OnlinePoker Jul 2013 #116

Nothing to see here, move along folks. reusrename Jul 2013 #85

LOL! Enthusiast Jul 2013 #36

you're ridiculous. and I'm a nuclear power skeptic for what it's worth. CreekDog Jul 2013 #93

There is proof that on the Bikini atoll that coconuts still are and have siphoned up radiation... L0oniX Jul 2013 #80

So, this is an article about pesticides and fungicides JayhawkSD Jul 2013 #13

Two headed dandelions RobertEarl Jul 2013 #14

I found a clover with four leaves Lordquinton Jul 2013 #21

Mud daubers RobertEarl Jul 2013 #24

Links to the research? Lordquinton Jul 2013 #28

Chernobyl RobertEarl Jul 2013 #29

Correlations with nuclear are of course studied. delrem Jul 2013 #30

Oh, so you're close to Chernobyl Progressive dog Jul 2013 #65

Correlation is not causation. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #82

Habitat destruction plays a part. alfredo Jul 2013 #95

+1. Thanks for reminding of its huge role. nt. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #103

Hey, Robert, Enthusiast Jul 2013 #41

Welcome to the world of climate change. NT NickB79 Jul 2013 #61

Not quite accurate. LanternWaste Jul 2013 #88

Heh RobertEarl Jul 2013 #90

Those observations are fine, but you can't draw your Chernobyl-Fukushima conclusions Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #105

You need to grow some vegetables and/or melons. Bees love them. I think if there is just one thing WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #126

Yeah, they do know is causing CCD but just can't fight the chemical lobby - Europe did this year Hestia Jul 2013 #42

You've never seen 2-headed dandelions before? NickB79 Jul 2013 #60

We should see concentration effects if that were the case. D23MIURG23 Jul 2013 #70

Your post is really stupid. I say nothing about you, but your post is really stupid. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #81

Funny, I saw RoccoR5955 Jul 2013 #83

Worse than you thought pscot Jul 2013 #5

. XemaSab Jul 2013 #38

Rub the lamp pscot Jul 2013 #68

Duh! KT2000 Jul 2013 #6

Yep...it seems bees are the canary in the coal mine... tex-wyo-dem Jul 2013 #15

I believe you might have something there. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #44

there are lots of places KT2000 Jul 2013 #49

Thanks. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #51

Just throwing this out there, but woolldog Jul 2013 #7

"Domesticated" bees are dying. MsPithy Jul 2013 #8

around here sweetapogee Jul 2013 #71

Sane agriculture would scrap monoculture and practice polyculture/rotation. This increases yields KittyWampus Jul 2013 #9

You are so right! Enthusiast Jul 2013 #46

That's crazy talk! NickB79 Jul 2013 #62

There was an article I read a few months ago entitled "peak soil" Javaman Jul 2013 #74

Explain how to do that with fruit orchards Sgent Jul 2013 #77

Grow more than one kind of fruit and intersperse w/veggies. Interplant clover. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #84

Be happy with not perfect fruit? nt. druidity33 Jul 2013 #118

Mind you, we're ingesting those pesticides & fungicides too. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #11

And gain weight and get autoimmune diseases siligut Jul 2013 #19

The connection looks tenuous at best. reformist2 Jul 2013 #16

Well that's not good. Egnever Jul 2013 #25

Note all the use of monetary values as part of the argument. For some, that's all that matters. gtar100 Jul 2013 #33

You and I participate in that monetary value argument JayhawkSD Jul 2013 #69

Well put. The most succinct summary of our contribution to the human/nature problem. Thanks. ancianita Jul 2013 #131

Well. we certainly wouldn't want to enact new regulations-willy nilly. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #34

Yes. laundry_queen Jul 2013 #57

And how in the world would we know that fungicides were at truedelphi Jul 2013 #108

Whoda thunk?-bees dying from insecticides! Wait, arent bees INSECTS? ErikJ Jul 2013 #35

The major message of the research is that *fungicides* can lower their immunity to parasites muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #67

well, doesn't it reason that weakened immune systems from hopemountain Jul 2013 #122

Not insecticides, fungicides. FogerRox Jul 2013 #101

Yes, my bad. The Dirty Dozen foods. ErikJ Jul 2013 #102

Bought some Strawberries from a local farm FogerRox Jul 2013 #104

There are no GMO strawberries on the market mathematic Jul 2013 #110

I stand corrected FogerRox Jul 2013 #117

k&r n/t RainDog Jul 2013 #37

I have a garden full of many kinds of lavender defacto7 Jul 2013 #43

Plus one. "Look around. What do you see?" It isn't only the honey bees. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #47

That probably has a different cause Lordquinton Jul 2013 #50

We try our best but it's in everything- Enthusiast Jul 2013 #52

My Mother just went Gleutin free Lordquinton Jul 2013 #56

I have dozens of bee plants XemaSab Jul 2013 #48

I fear they are the new canary in the coal mine...........nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #53

Do you get lots of bumblebees? leftyladyfrommo Jul 2013 #75

Some, but not lots XemaSab Jul 2013 #78

How about butterflies? leftyladyfrommo Jul 2013 #98

Butterflies are regular XemaSab Jul 2013 #129

We have a hummingbird moth. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2013 #130

We're screwed sakabatou Jul 2013 #54

Hmm, let's see, what's changed in farming over the last decade or so........ thelordofhell Jul 2013 #55

+1 nt laundry_queen Jul 2013 #58

+ 1 and I'll raise you one. n/t truedelphi Jul 2013 #107

Here in North Arkansas, chervilant Jul 2013 #59

Here in SE PA, enough Jul 2013 #63

Humans malaise Jul 2013 #66

Farm chemical soup! When I was pregnant with my oldest daughter the well I drank out of for the jwirr Jul 2013 #73

We keep dumping poisons into the environment thucythucy Jul 2013 #76

When I carried mail I could feel a real difference between the monoculture lawn and the alfredo Jul 2013 #97

Interesting observation. thucythucy Jul 2013 #123

They don't winter well either. alfredo Jul 2013 #127

You are right, worst than I thought nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #79

It's odd, but I've seen almost no bees or birds postatomic Jul 2013 #86

Let's have the CEOs drink that fungicide if they claim it's safe. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #87

I noted it in this year's fruit harvest... Moostache Jul 2013 #91

Welcome to the Monsanto century. nt valerief Jul 2013 #92

OMG!!!! Fungicides, pesticides, herbicides, and GMO's are bad for the environment . . . Richard D Jul 2013 #94

I'd say that 90% of the pollinators I see in my neck of the woods is the bumblebee. Very few alfredo Jul 2013 #96

In 2006, My Wife & I moved FAR from Urban, Suburban, and Big Ag pollution, bvar22 Jul 2013 #99

Beautiful work, Bvar. toby jo Jul 2013 #100

Wow! chervilant Jul 2013 #114

Has anyone seen the documentary "More Than Honey"? Laffy Kat Jul 2013 #106

Look what science has done for us. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #109

The big question is whether or not we will reach the computer/robot singularity before rhett o rick Jul 2013 #113

KNR DirkGently Jul 2013 #115

This is bad Federosky Jul 2013 #119

Pesticides and fungicides harming the ecosystem is hardly worse than I though :p RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #120

I thought that everyone knew this.... Tumbulu Jul 2013 #124

Propiconazole mixed with a pyrethroid insecticide was 16.2 times more toxic to bees than the lovuian Jul 2013 #121

Doesn't surprise me. nt BootinUp Jul 2013 #125