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In reply to the discussion: I would like to request a level of civility in our discussions here. [View all]TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)44. Well, here's one presumably legitimate story about it...
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19758908&ref=http://news.google.com/
This is largely about the family refusing to talk about it because of the hysteria surrounding Zimmerman.
I've refused to get into the thousands of Zimmerman threads because they all make little sense. Those who hated him before the trial paid no attention to any testimony during the trial if it didn't agree with their predetermined opinions. Those on his side the same. This has been noted elsewhere and seems to be how it works in highly public trials-- you had to either love or hate OJ and love or hate the verdict accordingly . Never reflect and try to learn "why" the verdict. And never, ever, even suggest that you may possibly have been wrong.
Long before these boards I, like some others, were on Usenet froups and I saw lives ruined and even one suspected murder took place. All over some bullshit political point. This here is really light action.
The enemy is not the internet, but it is us. Pogo knew that, but the word just hasn't gotten around. At our best we are a magnificent species capable of godlike greatness. But we rarely get there-- we prefer to wallow with our basest instincts doing nothing but causing trouble and not even getting decently paid for it. We do it just for fun, or because we don't know any better.
So, no, some of them will not be nice and we just have to deal with that. Some of us are driven by our own issues, prejudices, and life experiences and will not budge an inch. Some may couch it in terms like "progressive" and it may even imitate progressive ideals, but it is still an ideology and is not to be questioned or discussed.
And, well, some people are just plain stupid, even on our side, but I guess that's not their fault.
This is largely about the family refusing to talk about it because of the hysteria surrounding Zimmerman.
I've refused to get into the thousands of Zimmerman threads because they all make little sense. Those who hated him before the trial paid no attention to any testimony during the trial if it didn't agree with their predetermined opinions. Those on his side the same. This has been noted elsewhere and seems to be how it works in highly public trials-- you had to either love or hate OJ and love or hate the verdict accordingly . Never reflect and try to learn "why" the verdict. And never, ever, even suggest that you may possibly have been wrong.
Long before these boards I, like some others, were on Usenet froups and I saw lives ruined and even one suspected murder took place. All over some bullshit political point. This here is really light action.
The enemy is not the internet, but it is us. Pogo knew that, but the word just hasn't gotten around. At our best we are a magnificent species capable of godlike greatness. But we rarely get there-- we prefer to wallow with our basest instincts doing nothing but causing trouble and not even getting decently paid for it. We do it just for fun, or because we don't know any better.
So, no, some of them will not be nice and we just have to deal with that. Some of us are driven by our own issues, prejudices, and life experiences and will not budge an inch. Some may couch it in terms like "progressive" and it may even imitate progressive ideals, but it is still an ideology and is not to be questioned or discussed.
And, well, some people are just plain stupid, even on our side, but I guess that's not their fault.
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Half-Century Man
Jul 2013
#43
I am sorry to hear that. I see it all the time too. Actually, I went away for awhile and came back
ejpoeta
Jul 2013
#8
My wife (ChickMagic, RIP) was a staunch atheist who did her best to keep that in check
derby378
Jul 2013
#81
I have been close to giving up on DU, and I've been here since Oct. 2004. In fact, I credit DU and
CTyankee
Jul 2013
#23
Please try not to piss off the stupid asshole moronic sociopath immature Paulbot asscarrot trolls.
L0oniX
Jul 2013
#40
Good post and I agree, but, honestly, I don't see such widespred inciviltiy here..
mountain grammy
Jul 2013
#38
If somebody says the Sanford Police department staged a rollover with kids involved on a busy hwy
snooper2
Jul 2013
#42
stalking and harassment directed especially at you, Catherina and Cali
carolinayellowdog
Jul 2013
#60
R#47 & K for, it's startling to see gratuitous f-bombing, like their opinions are so sterling that
UTUSN
Jul 2013
#68
I personally think there's WAY too much alerting going on. We should be able to
chimpymustgo
Jul 2013
#74
I agree. It's pretty obvious that a lot of alerts are attempts to silence people for their ideas...
JVS
Jul 2013
#75
As long as paid shills, Caver trolls and their sockpuppets are allowed here, civility won't exist.
backscatter712
Jul 2013
#85
that's what the ignore button is for, and I'm not kidding. I still have people I disagree with
liberal_at_heart
Jul 2013
#88