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emulatorloo

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33. You are entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to mine

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:34 PM

Jul 2013

OTHO I think the example you use to support your opinion that Obama is "equating" Progressives with Republicans may not be the best one out there:

You write:

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"He says "I am reasonable unlike Republicans AND PROGRESSIVES"

Thus, apparently people who want to keep 100% of the Bush tax cuts are no more unreasonable than people who want to get rid of 100% of the Bush tax cuts."

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As you know getting rid of 100% of the Bush tax cuts would result in an increasing taxes on the middle class. Best plan is to get rid of Bush tax cuts for top percents and leave cuts in place for the majority of Americans. Probably something most progressives agree on. Rates on wealthy have been increased but not enough.

ON EDIT: Oh sorry, I see from your post below you think the middle class are wealthy. Never mind.

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Thats 'Obama-code' for Change is a comin'. Segami Jul 2013 #5

It is Obama-Code to general public for "I am not an ideologue Boehner-Teabag" emulatorloo Jul 2013 #10

wild speculations that are about as bad as Obama's pre-compromised proposals yurbud Jul 2013 #94

I was hoping MuseRider Jul 2013 #19

His speech giving talent could have been used to really snappyturtle Jul 2013 #25

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OH! Hadn't thought of that. How awful. I hope not. snappyturtle Jul 2013 #60

Obviously he's still going after Social Security - and probably other programs forestpath Jul 2013 #4

That's his standard throwaway line to look reasonable--he's been using geek tragedy Jul 2013 #6

Pretty much his boilerplate "I am reasonable unlike Republicans" emulatorloo Jul 2013 #8

except that is not the line he is using hfojvt Jul 2013 #26

You are entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to mine emulatorloo Jul 2013 #33

so I see from your post here hfojvt Jul 2013 #34

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Can you tell me with certainty what he was referring to with snappyturtle Jul 2013 #27

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^^ This ^^ Myrina Jul 2013 #39

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More of the same predatory shit. woo me with science Jul 2013 #23

Maybe ProSense Jul 2013 #24

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I know. Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2013 #69

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Krugman on the speech: ProSense Jul 2013 #55

Mahalo for Krugman's view, ProSense.. Cha Jul 2013 #72

When he does damage to SS his followers will point to this. SEE!!! Safetykitten Jul 2013 #56

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And then some... Segami Jul 2013 #64

A reasonable interpretation. n/t DirkGently Jul 2013 #63

Nice and Reaganesque, like his hero. Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #66

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You might be interested in post seventy six. nt MADem Jul 2013 #77

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