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NuclearDem

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8. That's not why liberals are criticizing Obama

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:10 PM

Jul 2013

Any half-decent progressive with a brain knows most progressive policies that reach Congress will be obstructed by Republicans. In fact, just about any policy that reaches Congress will be obstructed by Republicans.

Liberals are angry not because progressive policies are being stalled out in Congress, but because Obama isn't even pushing for them in the first place. Single payer and the public option were surrendered without a fight, earned benefits have been put on the table for cutting, Wall Street bankers and Third Wayers are being absorbed into the administration, and Keystone still hasn't been outright rejected.

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The new meme: It's Obama's fault, don't blame Republican obstruction. [View all] ProSense Jul 2013 OP

Why don't the republicans like me? I'm practically one of them. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #1

You nailed it: Republicans are ingrates. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #2

That wasn't the part that was nailed. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #9

Sure it was. Don't you believe Republicans are ingrates? ProSense Jul 2013 #11

Maybe instead of making this about Republicans NuclearDem Jul 2013 #19

So ProSense Jul 2013 #21

"attempts to absolve Republicans for their actions" AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #39

Again with the straw men. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #62

Again with the lame dismissal. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #93

You mean "calling their bluff"? jazzimov Jul 2013 #22

yours is a loony stance to take. the president's suggestions and proposals are repeatedly rejected Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #36

I'm not saying the Republicans aren't the problem. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #56

That's what I don't get JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #31

Exactly Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2013 #55

Don't you believe Republicans are ingrates?Why else would they allegedly reject their own policies? LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #68

Well, ProSense Jul 2013 #70

He wouldn't have to do much more that change that (D) to an (R) RC Jul 2013 #4

I think ProSense Jul 2013 #6

I seem to be spending most of my time Reccing your threads. n/t UTUSN Jul 2013 #3

That's new? nt treestar Jul 2013 #5

Not in the case of Republicans, but I think there is an attempt to validate the meme. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #7

yeah, I was thinking the same thing! deafskeptic Jul 2013 #34

That's not why liberals are criticizing Obama NuclearDem Jul 2013 #8

Are you saying ProSense Jul 2013 #10

No, what I'm saying is you erected a straw man to discredit Obama's critics from the left NuclearDem Jul 2013 #15

"we're too stupid to acknowledge Republican obstructionism" jazzimov Jul 2013 #24

Claiming it's a "straw man" doesn't make it so. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #25

You should know burnodo Jul 2013 #32

Claiming it's not a straw man doesn't make your argument any less of one. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #60

A straw man would mean that no one is making the claim, but the reality is that it's being made. ProSense Jul 2013 #71

No, it's a straw man because the people you accuse of making the claim aren't the ones making it. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #73

Nonsense. The OP acknowledges the meme exists. The OP does not single out a group. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #75

Well who the hell are you trying to address on a Democratic message board, conservative Republicans? NuclearDem Jul 2013 #85

Oh please. The meme exists and it's being used by non-Republicans. ProSense Jul 2013 #89

Exactly. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #53

K&R! nt sheshe2 Jul 2013 #12

I see that played out every day CatWoman Jul 2013 #13

Scar was particularly bad this morning. He wouldn't let anybody objecting to him get a word in CTyankee Jul 2013 #61

This brazen nonsense again? woo me with science Jul 2013 #14

This. A thousand times this. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #17

I thought lists filled with blue links were frowned upon. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #26

Apparently IOKIYANDU'er ... tridim Jul 2013 #63

LOL! n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #80

THERE are some blue links! burnodo Jul 2013 #33

You Blue Linked the Blue Linker! Hydra Jul 2013 #41

WooHoo! +1000 truebluegreen Jul 2013 #43

THE LIST. BLUE LINKS. OMG. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #52

No, a "wall of blue links" ProSense Jul 2013 #82

+1000000 forestpath Jul 2013 #72

You just rocked it more Aerows Jul 2013 #74

Look, ProSense Jul 2013 #79

Awesome response...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #100

Obama's only fault... kentuck Jul 2013 #16

^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^ And his unwillingness to CLEARLY Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #20

hard for him to do that watoos Jul 2013 #57

But even in his speeches, even when he is televised, Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #67

^^^^THIS^^^^ NuclearDem Jul 2013 #69

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #30

Also the unwillingness to bend the rules to go around the obstruction Doctor_J Jul 2013 #76

Nothing new about it, ProSense. People have been blaming Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #18

What day was it when he appointed Timmy Geithner and truebluegreen Jul 2013 #45

The day he honored Rick Warren zipplewrath Jul 2013 #49

Bingo! truebluegreen Jul 2013 #96

All capable people. Next... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #54

Capable of what? Aerows Jul 2013 #78

all contributors to the Great Recession. Next... Doctor_J Jul 2013 #83

Ah, hyperbole, much? ;) Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #87

Oh Good Dog. truebluegreen Jul 2013 #95

Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #97

That's a common line from people who've never contributed an ounce to political achievement. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #23

Nor taken a class in civics. freshwest Jul 2013 #94

As opposed to the old meme -- "nothing, whatsoever, is Obama's fault or responsibility?" villager Jul 2013 #27

Of course it's not his fault! Hydra Jul 2013 #42

Well, yes it is his fault. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #28

He HAD everything AND EVERYBODY, he threw it away. Don't come blaming us. PowerToThePeople Jul 2013 #40

threw it all away... kentuck Jul 2013 #50

Seriously, if we want to talk about BLAME Rex Jul 2013 #29

And privatize or Iliyah Jul 2013 #46

Yeah and do away with food stamps and a living wage Rex Jul 2013 #47

Why cannot we communicate that to the American people? kentuck Jul 2013 #51

IMO, because the POTUS won't make it crystal clear Rex Jul 2013 #59

Yeah, poor, poor President Obama, still trying to get obstructing Repugs to accept Chained CPI. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #35

The Mr nice guy, weak negotiating constant cave is Obama's fault on point Jul 2013 #37

Boehner controls the House. Can you justify blocking a jobs bill? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #44

Pelosi controlled the House when President Obama took office Aerows Jul 2013 #84

Um, ProSense Jul 2013 #86

That is a false dichotomy - both are to blame. n/t xocet Jul 2013 #38

No it isn't. ProSense Jul 2013 #48

Precisely. And thankfully most are mature enough to understand that. nt Union Scribe Jul 2013 #66

So one op of mine explaining why I personally tend to criticize dems more cali Jul 2013 #58

It's Obama's fault that it's Obama's fault. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #64

right.... it's NEVER Obama's fault LOL bowens43 Jul 2013 #65

It would be his fault ProSense Jul 2013 #77

A couple other memes - not that new Doctor_J Jul 2013 #81

And none of that has anything to do with Republican blocking the jobs bill. ProSense Jul 2013 #91

My chlidren and grandchldren will alway know mick063 Jul 2013 #88

Maybe, ProSense Jul 2013 #90

Yeah, bfd.. glenn greenwald says it.. it must be true.. Cha Jul 2013 #92

Straw man :-) n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #99

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #98

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #101