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pnwmom

(110,261 posts) Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:02 PM Jul 2013

"Obamacare confession." [View all]

Saw this on Facebook today. Hopefully there will be a lot more stories like this one.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wwjtd/2013/07/obamacare-confession/

The hammer has dropped. The sky has fallen. I have been a staunch defender of the ACA. I have defended Nancy Pelosi’s much maligned (and taken out of context by the right) statement to pass it so we would know what was in it.

Well.

Today, I got a letter from my current insurance company inviting me to call them and find out what the exchange could do for me. The letter informed me that I could keep my current $600 per month, $10,000 deductible policy since it is grandfathered in, or I could get a new policy starting Jan. 1.

For a total of $105 per month, I will be able to get a new silver policy. My current policy equal to a bronze. For a total of $300 per month, I will be able to get a gold policy. The higher your metal, the lower your deductible, your copay, and the higher the drug benefit.

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"Obamacare confession." [View all] pnwmom Jul 2013 OP

Ah, more I have's it issues. Any there with people with no insurance? Hmmmm? Safetykitten Jul 2013 #1

There are millions who lacked insurance who will now be able to get it. pnwmom Jul 2013 #4

you want it to fail so badly you'll ignore any positive outcomes from it. sad. dionysus Jul 2013 #27

kaiser charges $200/month for the right to pay $100 just to talk to a receptionist. can't be any msongs Jul 2013 #2

This is why the GOP is desperate to stop ACA , too sufrommich Jul 2013 #3

BOTTOM LINE: The GOP have ONCE CHANCE (in September) to KILL OBAMACARE before everybody finds out TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #71

The Republicans will look bad if they try to overturn this Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #102

Yup, it's the crowbar in the crack of the door. joshcryer Jul 2013 #116

This is fabulous news for people who can afford premiums! leftstreet Jul 2013 #5

Yes, and we all know that they are oh so affordable, even with the deductables! Safetykitten Jul 2013 #6

Drop your cell service, cableTV, stop eating so much! leftstreet Jul 2013 #9

I'm not really sure what argument you're trying to make. Are you claiming that there are people who TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #39

That used to be a GOP talking point leftstreet Jul 2013 #41

Yes it did and it used to be Romney care, Progressive dog Jul 2013 #44

And....? TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #65

Suggesting people are irresponsible leftstreet Jul 2013 #70

Sorry, but repeating "it must be bad because the GOP said it" over and over again just won't cut it. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #74

Nice try, but I didn't say that leftstreet Jul 2013 #76

Not exactly. I insinuated that people are immoral when they're willing to force OTHER people to TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #83

We've had something similar in MA for years. MADem Jul 2013 #107

I don't know MADem. It's like they WANT this to fail because it's not single payer... Hekate Jul 2013 #110

They don't get it. The working poor get prenatal care and maternity services and MADem Jul 2013 #112

I worry about my daughter and her kids all the time Hekate Jul 2013 #117

She needs to do some homework--it's adjusted gross. MADem Jul 2013 #131

and FORGET saving for retirement!!! Skittles Jul 2013 #46

Still waiting for either of you to make your point. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #67

Ah there it is leftstreet Jul 2013 #82

Nope. The 'freeloaders' Limbaugh is talking about are the poor. The 'freeloaders' I'm talking TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #85

Have you plugged in the numbers in the online calculator? SoCalDem Jul 2013 #15

A THOUSAND BUCKS A MONTH??? Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #37

No,it says $164 bucks a month, not a thousand. You get a tax credit if you're in that income range. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #40

Tax credit means you still have to pay the cash through the year Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #42

yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not going to work like that. Schema Thing Jul 2013 #45

No cash, credit paid dirctly to insurance company Progressive dog Jul 2013 #47

Really? Wow! Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #95

That's what they claim and it makes sense. Progressive dog Jul 2013 #133

I really hope so Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #135

Not these. The subsidies will go into effect right away. n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #126

ACA tax credits are given when you pay your premium JCMach1 Jul 2013 #134

Interesting. So the tax credit, that comes off the $1,086 and you pay $164. a month? Autumn Jul 2013 #55

You should try going and calculating your own rate. Here's the link. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #89

That's really good! Just Saying Jul 2013 #106

I checked for myself as a single person Skittles Jul 2013 #49

Probably because you didn't calculate it properly. What calculator did you use? nt TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #80

Okay, I just used the same calculator, punched in the same numbers for a single person and TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #90

sounds like the old single people getting screwed business to me Skittles Jul 2013 #94

Sounds like it's just a recognition of the fact that a salary divided by ONE is greater pnwmom Jul 2013 #100

sounds like a GREAT DEAL for INSURANCE COMPANIES Skittles Jul 2013 #104

I hope my employer keeps their plan joeglow3 Jul 2013 #52

Now I'd have to say that is doable and I'm just a little under that income level. brewens Jul 2013 #57

Here's the calculator.. put your numbers in and see what happens SoCalDem Jul 2013 #58

Thanks. Not as good as I'd hoped but I could still swing it. Still, it's way cheaper that what I brewens Jul 2013 #59

Yowsa! ellie Jul 2013 #62

$1058 a month for me awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #64

Is that your adjusted gross? SoCalDem Jul 2013 #68

Hmmm, good point... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #69

It's line 37 n/t SoCalDem Jul 2013 #75

Thanks... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #77

Do you have a link to the calculator you used?... TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #88

here's a link to it.. SoCalDem Jul 2013 #108

Thank you. ..nt TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #122

Medicaid will help millions of others who can't. pnwmom Jul 2013 #8

Why are there so many millions who can't afford it? leftstreet Jul 2013 #13

"So many millions"? Do you have specific numbers you're talking about? pnwmom Jul 2013 #16

LOL ^^You just said 'millions' up there^^ leftstreet Jul 2013 #19

Here's one source. pnwmom Jul 2013 #22

By the time I was 26 both of my parents had been dead for years Fumesucker Jul 2013 #31

A) Sorry about your parents, and B ) what exactly is your point? TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #43

At least everyone was equal before Fumesucker Jul 2013 #53

I disagree. People with LIVE or WEALTHY parents ALWAYS had an advantage before. (Not equal) TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #61

Eh, I just know how I would have felt at the time if that had been the situation Fumesucker Jul 2013 #84

'but they must only drink 20% of their blood' TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #91

Before it was exactly the same, except the age division was at 21, or wherever pnwmom Jul 2013 #98

True. We know a young woman without resources whose mother doesn't have any insurance. pnwmom Jul 2013 #96

Don't forget the subsidies that will be available to lots of people. Hoyt Jul 2013 #24

Neo-DU and the Republicans will forget. Count on it. tridim Jul 2013 #34

yes indeed. it looks like now many millions more will be able to afford premiums Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #51

And for those included in the Medicaid expansion. mzmolly Jul 2013 #93

I am very happy with the changes flamingdem Jul 2013 #7

Something I saw at Repub's house today pertaining to ACA............ northoftheborder Jul 2013 #10

I've seen and heard it advertised. Control-Z Jul 2013 #23

It is a scam to get wingnut/fox viewer $$$ for a book full of lies emulatorloo Jul 2013 #66

Yeah, probably a book telling them to buy overpriced gold coins and SURVIVAL SEEDS. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #92

Depends on where you live, I guess. meaculpa2011 Jul 2013 #11

here's a link that might help SoCalDem Jul 2013 #17

Insurance companies are happy to "grandfather" you in with the old fees Sheepshank Jul 2013 #18

Here's the federal calculator SoCalDem Jul 2013 #20

$396/mo for me and my family. Sheepshank Jul 2013 #30

I just figured my new premium with the calculator... meaculpa2011 Jul 2013 #35

I find it hard to believe you are that much of an outlier. perhaps you should recheck your math Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #56

I checked it four times... meaculpa2011 Jul 2013 #118

BTW: In NYC we're not really "outliers." meaculpa2011 Jul 2013 #119

Good information. I just thought it strange Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #123

Last weekend I went to the Utah State web site for new HC costs Sheepshank Jul 2013 #12

That's good news. Thanks! n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #14

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #21

And there it is. MineralMan Jul 2013 #25

K & R SunSeeker Jul 2013 #26

There should be a website that people can post positive outcomes from the ACA. I wonder southernyankeebelle Jul 2013 #28

One of the false and/or lies Iliyah Jul 2013 #29

Well I hope you turned them down! SheilaT Jul 2013 #32

Still can't find anything for my situation stuckinodi Jul 2013 #33

States that refuse to set up exchanges, will have a FEDERAL one put in place SoCalDem Jul 2013 #127

I no longer believe in the ACA photogirl26 Jul 2013 #36

This sounds like what has been happening PRE Obamacare. Chemisse Jul 2013 #48

dropped because of what changes? Schema Thing Jul 2013 #54

I'm very sorry for your boyfriend but his situation has NOTHING to do with ACA. pnwmom Jul 2013 #73

Minnesota has already begun it's Medicaid expansion BainsBane Jul 2013 #81

Medicaid expansion photogirl26 Jul 2013 #86

I seriously doubt that BainsBane Jul 2013 #87

Yes, this story is confusing. lolly Jul 2013 #109

I absolutely do NOT believe that Coexist Jul 2013 #121

I believe someone told him that - Ms. Toad Jul 2013 #130

Nothing you have said has anything to do with the affordable care act. Ms. Toad Jul 2013 #129

Check this out - MNsure pinto Jul 2013 #136

recommended nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #38

rec Doctor_J Jul 2013 #50

Just figured in my data and will only pay 64 dollars a month revmclaren Jul 2013 #60

1000 X rec. revmclaren Jul 2013 #63

With regards to "Number of people in the household" NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #72

Since it;s a FEDERAL program. I think you are a-okay.....unless SoCalDem Jul 2013 #78

If you were living in a state that had legalized gay marriage, I've read that they're pnwmom Jul 2013 #79

Well the minute I no longer have to pay $925/month in premiums and can start paying my copays liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #97

Have you looked at your state's insurance exchange yet to see what your options will be? n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #99

I have visited a few websites but all they say is that starting this fall we will be able to shop liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #103

Mine will be no cost next year, then $120 or so a year for the next five bhikkhu Jul 2013 #101

In Britain you can go to the doctor or the hospital and it is free Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #105

Yes, we will be dealing with this... Safetykitten Jul 2013 #111

It will take a revolution to overthrow the 1% before we can get true single payer healthcare. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #115

a public option could be made more appealing Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #132

Lest we forget the 4 motherfucking years after ACA was passed that we were hung out to dry. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #113

As you know, the Rethugs were the ones blocking a faster implementation. pnwmom Jul 2013 #125

The reaction here is why so many people are being hired to explain the ACA Hekate Jul 2013 #114

+1 lots of folks here seem to want to dampen that man's good news Coexist Jul 2013 #120

Not necessarily nonsense...just differing circumstamces SoCalDem Jul 2013 #128

K&R Raffi Ella Jul 2013 #124

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #137