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Junkdrawer

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Fri Jul 26, 2013, 06:53 AM Jul 2013

5 Reasons It's Just Absurd That America Doesn't Tax Wall St's Transactions [View all]

The financial speculation industry has devastated middle-class wealth -- and there's a simple way to curb its power.

July 22, 2013 | By Paul Buchheit

The logic for the tax is indisputable:

-- 1. Financial industry speculation devastated middle-class homeowner wealth.
-- 2. U.S. investors pay zero tax on their speculative transactions.
-- 3. The tax is easy to implement, and is very successful in other countries.

The emotional appeal reaches most of America:

-- Why should the rest of us pay up to 10% on the necessities of life while risky derivative purchases aren't taxed at all?
-- Why should kids around the country lose their arts programs while trillions of dollars flow, untaxed, to Wall Street?

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The Tax Works in Countries with the 'Freest' Economies

A good place to start is Singapore. Or Hong Kong or Switzerland. These are three of the top five countries on the Heritage Foundation's Index of Economic Freedom, and they all have FTTs. Critics who might argue that non-FTT taxes are lower in Singapore and Hong Kong should look at World Bank and CIA World Factbook datasets, both of which show the U.S. with lower tax revenues as a percentage of GDP. The U.S. is clearly undertaxed across a wide range of taxes.

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Unimaginable Amounts are being Traded in the U.S., with zero tax

Unfortunately, in our country, discussions about pension reform and education and infrastructure usually lead to talk about further cutbacks, as if that were the only solution. But pension funds and schools lost money because of financial industry malfeasance. And yet the financial industry keeps surging ahead. The 2012 trading volume for the Chicago Mercantile Group (CME) alone was $806 trillion, about 12 times more than the entire world GDP. In 2011 it was over $1,000 trillion -- that's a mind-dizzying $1 quadrillion.

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http://www.alternet.org/economy/5-reasons-its-just-absurd-america-doesnt-tax-wall-sts-transactions?paging=off


Wall Street has become an end and not a means. If President Obama is serious about rebuilding a middle class, this is a necessary first step.
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Our president should not be criticized. East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #1
Badda boom! 7962 Jul 2013 #3
Can we please stop the meta-discussions and meta-threads? Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #4
Why don't you rein in your own spammers and see what happens? n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #18
I don't own any spammers. Further, you don't know which side I'm on. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #28
Of course I do. You have made no attempt to hide your positions. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #29
Ok, enough hijacking. Message me who my "confederates" are. I don't have any "confederates". Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #31
How is this a criticism of Obama? (nt) Recursion Jul 2013 #32
I would agree with this if it were applied to HFT 7962 Jul 2013 #2
Right. I'm generally against FTTs but HFT is way out of hand. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #5
I think the tax could be tailored to go for HFT and large volume traders.... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #13
+1 Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #14
I admit I am biased against short sellers 7962 Jul 2013 #19
If I'm taxed for school clothes, why shouldn't I be taked for a stock purchase? michigandem58 Jul 2013 #6
School clothes are sold only once. Stocks are sold & resold many times. Taxing reduces liquidity. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #7
More stock transactions are made on behalf of wealthier Americans michigandem58 Jul 2013 #9
Tax the high frequency trading Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #11
You are completely at odds with the op, I'm confused. toby jo Jul 2013 #10
The figure of "A Quadrillion Dollars" is not wealth, it is volume. Yes, you're confused. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #12
And therein lies the problem; not enough knowledge of the markets 7962 Jul 2013 #15
Excellent Insight Bunnahabhain Jul 2013 #22
School clothes can be resold over and over. Rex Jul 2013 #17
Oh come on now. Not in the retail market they cant. 7962 Jul 2013 #21
They can be, but aren't (be real). When they are (once) it's a private non-taxed transaction. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #23
I've bought plenty of second hand clothes from the salvation army. Rex Jul 2013 #25
You COULD make the argument that they are, though, 7962 Jul 2013 #35
True never thought about that but you can hold the actual certificate Rex Jul 2013 #38
Not really, the stock and the tax are separate 7962 Jul 2013 #39
Because the casino system has replaced investment. Taxing all transactions would push people Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #20
It would be so easy whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #8
Wait. They don't pay any fees for transactions? Rex Jul 2013 #16
Re: Wait. They don't pay any fees for transactions? Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #24
Yeah not all of us have money to invest or a 401k Rex Jul 2013 #26
I didn't assume you have money to invest. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #27
+1 Bunnahabhain Jul 2013 #40
What financial transaction tax rate would be appropriate? Piedras Jul 2013 #30
.25% is the most commonly floated figure. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #34
Cant agree with you on the last part 7962 Jul 2013 #36
I couldn't have demonstrated the point any more clearly if I were Samuel Clemens. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #37
Great points. Elect a House who will pass a FTT (nt) Recursion Jul 2013 #33
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