Democratic establishment unmasked: prime defenders of NSA bulk spying

[karynnj]

171. As I said, there is no rule on what part of the op can be discussed

and it has been perfectly acceptable to comment on ANY thing in the op - which you might know if you you had more than 107 posts.

You clearly have no real concept of what a strawman is. You could say that what I posted was a "digression" from the main discussion - but not a strawman. In fact, a case can be made that some posts that make exaggerated claims on what NSA does -such as recording all calls- and then uses that to say that the program needs to end can more fairly be called on for using "a strawman". As the comment did not create an alternative version of what any of the NSA programs was doing, it could not be called a Strawman.

You ignore that I said that ACCESS to the database was what had to be investigated and strengthened if needed. (They also need to implement means to determine if their own employees and contractors are doing things that are both not legal and not for their job - such as Snowden speaking of being able to pull anyone's data. Note that he did not say he did this, but there have to be methods to track what is pulled and by whom and any illegitimate pulling of the data has to be a firing offense. ) What I did argue is that it is important that the database be there so it can be used for the purpose it was designed for.