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Cleita

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36. I can't disagree.

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 11:18 AM

Jul 2013

I grew up with dual citizenship, USA and Chile. When I came of age, my American father told me I would have to choose which country I wanted to be a citizen of before I turned 21. I chose the USA for those reasons you outlined and the fact that American women had many more legal rights than Chilean women did at that time even in the fifties.

Frankly, if I had chosen Chile, I wouldn't have had to work as hard and would have had a close family life. I did not choose what our country is turning into today domestically.

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What would have been the downside of ending the filibuster since Democrats RARELY used in minority? [View all] yurbud Jul 2013 OP

the dems used it alot blocking bush's judicial appointments leftyohiolib Jul 2013 #1

when they did use it, it was big Enrique Jul 2013 #2

This isn't the old, familiar center-right Republican party -- this is increasingly pnwmom Jul 2013 #3

We blocked several batshit crazy judicial appointments with the filibuster Recursion Jul 2013 #4

but not the worst legislation yurbud Jul 2013 #5

You're right. Mc Mike Jul 2013 #6

^^THIS^^ Ligyron Jul 2013 #9

yep. Like their spending like a drunken sailor on weekend pass and cutting taxes for the rich during yurbud Jul 2013 #10

I guess a case could be made Mc Mike Jul 2013 #13

a related question: when will demographics make it impossible for them to get a majority in Senate? yurbud Jul 2013 #16

Somebody'd have to be way smarter than me, math wise, to crunch the numbers.for that timeframe Mc Mike Jul 2013 #20

It evaporated because corporate Dems made the supermajority meaningless yurbud Jul 2013 #21

I believe in giving the voters a clear, distinct choice too, Mc Mike Jul 2013 #22

the disgust was not necessarily at the compromises, but when they came in the process yurbud Jul 2013 #23

They definitely aim too low. Mc Mike Jul 2013 #34

as Obama demonstrated again today by making a mostly conservative tax proposal that conservatives yurbud Jul 2013 #42

I recall the recent threat to 'go Bulworth'. Mc Mike Jul 2013 #44

which ironically would IMPROVE Dems chances in 14 more than the "Business Party WITHOUT Nuts" tack yurbud Jul 2013 #45

If people see progress, they'll see a clear choice. Mc Mike Aug 2013 #46

And by the way, Mc Mike Jul 2013 #14

good idea yurbud Jul 2013 #25

It wouldn't take much of our military to occupy the Cayman Islands, Seychelles, or wherever the yurbud Jul 2013 #26

The hacker idea is excellent. Give the gang over at NSA something positive to do Mc Mike Jul 2013 #32

just as there have been whistleblowers and leakers who have gone off the reservation... yurbud Jul 2013 #37

Redford's crew did something like that, at the end of the movie 'Sneakers', I remember. Mc Mike Jul 2013 #38

could you elaborate? yurbud Jul 2013 #39

Good movie, you should see it. *Spoiler Alert* Mc Mike Jul 2013 #40

that's the kind of thing I thought of--give it all to charities and even fake an email that yurbud Jul 2013 #41

I'm sure the cream will rise to the top, Mc Mike Jul 2013 #43

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #11

The filibuster is toast. Democrats might as well end it now while LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #15

it's 11 dimensional chess n/t warrprayer Jul 2013 #7

It would seem more logical to call for better leadership than for disarming the inept leader. JVS Jul 2013 #8

There is no downside. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #12

The downside? 99Forever Jul 2013 #17

They won't end it because it makes a convenient excuse for passing corporate legislation. Marr Jul 2013 #18

"Leadership" will need to come up with new excuses for corporate taint licking, selling us out, TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #19

Good point. None that I can see. Cleita Jul 2013 #24

Reid knows. He's in on the joke. librechik Jul 2013 #29

Yes, but isn't it time we let him Cleita Jul 2013 #30

yeah--but it's not like they don't know that, too. And they just aren't afraid of it. librechik Jul 2013 #35

I can't disagree. Cleita Jul 2013 #36

Again, I do not advocate for the ending of the Filibuster Xyzse Jul 2013 #27

I sometimes suspect the Dems don't want to get rid of the fillibuster ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #28

You are not. There is plenty to be cynical about being they really are both playing Cleita Jul 2013 #31

It would be like shooting the republicons up with steroids madokie Jul 2013 #33