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In reply to the discussion: Is there anyone on DU-3 who lived through Vietnam War Era..whose life was changed by the DraftWar? [View all]rfranklin
(13,200 posts)92. Kent State was May 4, 1970 and Jackson State was May 14, 1970
I think that spring was the height of the student protests. There was a Washington DC march in 1971 but the campuses did not shut down as they did in 1970.
With U.S. troops coming home, the antiwar movement gradually declined between 1971 and 1975. The many remaining activists protested continued U.S. bombing, the plight of South Vietnamese political prisoners, and U.S. funding of the war.
The American movement against the Vietnam War was the most successful antiwar movement in U.S. history. During the Johnson administration, it played a significant role in constraining the war and was a major factor in the administration's policy reversal in 1968. During the Nixon years, it hastened U.S. troop withdrawals, continued to restrain the war, fed the deterioration in U.S. troop morale and discipline (which provided additional impetus to U.S. troop withdrawals), and promoted congressional legislation that severed U.S. funds for the war. The movement also fostered aspects of the Watergate scandal, which ultimately played a significant role in ending the war by undermining Nixon's authority in Congress and thus his ability to continue the war. It gave rise to the infamous "Huston Plan"; inspired Daniel Ellsberg, whose release of the Pentagon Papers led to the formation of the Plumbers; and fed the Nixon administration's paranoia about its political enemies, which played a major part in concocting the Watergate break-in itself.
from The Oxford Companion to American Military History. Copyright © 1999 by Oxford UP.
With U.S. troops coming home, the antiwar movement gradually declined between 1971 and 1975. The many remaining activists protested continued U.S. bombing, the plight of South Vietnamese political prisoners, and U.S. funding of the war.
The American movement against the Vietnam War was the most successful antiwar movement in U.S. history. During the Johnson administration, it played a significant role in constraining the war and was a major factor in the administration's policy reversal in 1968. During the Nixon years, it hastened U.S. troop withdrawals, continued to restrain the war, fed the deterioration in U.S. troop morale and discipline (which provided additional impetus to U.S. troop withdrawals), and promoted congressional legislation that severed U.S. funds for the war. The movement also fostered aspects of the Watergate scandal, which ultimately played a significant role in ending the war by undermining Nixon's authority in Congress and thus his ability to continue the war. It gave rise to the infamous "Huston Plan"; inspired Daniel Ellsberg, whose release of the Pentagon Papers led to the formation of the Plumbers; and fed the Nixon administration's paranoia about its political enemies, which played a major part in concocting the Watergate break-in itself.
from The Oxford Companion to American Military History. Copyright © 1999 by Oxford UP.
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Is there anyone on DU-3 who lived through Vietnam War Era..whose life was changed by the DraftWar? [View all]
KoKo
Feb 2012
OP
I was there. I got the last draft number. It was too low to go and they never called me.
Vincardog
Feb 2012
#1
I worked on a military base that soldiers came through for courses they took. I even dated a
southernyankeebelle
Feb 2012
#8
Your point is well taken. It really did have an impact on people. I think the younger guys really
southernyankeebelle
Feb 2012
#15
Wow, I am sorry for your lose. Many good young men come back left with deep scars of emotions.
southernyankeebelle
Feb 2012
#26
The "dirty hippies" were a small percentage of the people who protested the war...
rfranklin
Feb 2012
#2
I hope you can convince your brother to post here (if he does not do so already). Failing
coalition_unwilling
Feb 2012
#69
Alas, my brother would never post here: he's the sole Republican in our family.
CaliforniaPeggy
Feb 2012
#94
+1 ....that's my take on "Communes" morphed into today's "Communities for Sustainable Living."
KoKo
Feb 2012
#111
I lived through it, both as a war protestor, and the spouse of a vietnam vet. one of the things
niyad
Feb 2012
#5
on the crux-- I turned 18 in '73, a high school dropout with a LOW lottery number....
mike_c
Feb 2012
#7
Minor quibble but Watergate would never have occurred without Vietnam, a point made
coalition_unwilling
Feb 2012
#70
Um, minor quibble, but I think the number of U.S. combat fatalities was
coalition_unwilling
Feb 2012
#71
And even sadder, more than that have taken their own lives after they got home.
AnotherDreamWeaver
Feb 2012
#113
Having lived through it, I would say that everyone living at that time who was of draft age, or
enough
Feb 2012
#12
Thanks for your post...It was what I was asking about. You are Not Vietnam..but a little Younger...
KoKo
Feb 2012
#38
born in 1956 - remember it as a horrible/stressful time. My parents were ready to ship me to Canada
NRaleighLiberal
Feb 2012
#18
I was A1 for two years and I was determined not to go even if I had to leave the country.
Sancho
Feb 2012
#19
As a result of the Viet Nam War, I became a full-fledged liberal and I'm never going back.
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2012
#34
Notwithstanding the inter-service rivalries, there are some cultural differences
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2012
#97
Of course, one would have to have been dead to not have been effected by that debacle...
Alameda
Feb 2012
#35
There was a huge shift in families-some survived, some not. Its never been documented. And should be
MichiganVote
Feb 2012
#36
Agree...there's never been a movie that showed how it affected the families and what it did to
KoKo
Feb 2012
#59
I was young and stupid. I joined the Navy before they started the lottery.
Stinky The Clown
Feb 2012
#47
"It is impossible today to describe the influence and ominous omnipresence of “the draft” to those
raccoon
Feb 2012
#89
I don't see how anyone who lived through Vietnam War Era, could say their life was not changed
raccoon
Feb 2012
#87
Many years after the war, my then-wife insisted she'd been unaffected by it
pinboy3niner
Feb 2012
#95
When they asked me to extend my enlistment to kill people for LBJ, I told them to fuck off.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2012
#100
Born in '53. Lottery number in mid-40s. Called for physical. Avoided physical. Got CO deferment.
onenote
Feb 2012
#104
Sorry to hear about your loss. It must have been extremely traumatic for you.
grantcart
Feb 2012
#115
I never got the sense from any documentary about Vietnam that it was not a mistake.
Jennicut
Feb 2012
#119