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JackRiddler

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49. A completely irrelevant answer. What's the fact?

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:31 PM

Jul 2013

The track record of some pretend neutral facts site has absolutely nothing to say about any given statement. None whatsoever.

Each statement is true or false (or something in between) on its own. Resort to an authority doesn't change that.

"Obama ended torture" is a false statement, as demonstrated by the counter-examples immediately posted in response to your making this false claim.

Long as you think platitudes substitute for thinking, here's a useful one: Anyone who uses the ROFL smiley loses.

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Breaking: U.S. tells Russia it would not seek the death penalty if Edward Snowden returns to U.S. [View all] AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 OP

Instead - the US will seek the "solitary confinement for 100 years" penalty? Much more humane. nt CincyDem Jul 2013 #1

They didn't say anything about torture so Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #4

Yeah, and we told the Indians the truth too The Straight Story Jul 2013 #2

Holder pinky promised! morningfog Jul 2013 #43

We are a nation that tortures, and keeps secret extrajudicial kill lists MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #3

+1 Safetykitten Jul 2013 #7

Dutch Court Won�t Extradite Terror Suspect to US Over Torture Concerns Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #12

Lovely MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #15

Obama ended torture, but nice try. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #18

Manning was tortured, according to the UN. MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #20

Not in US prisons ..just with the military. Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #24

AINIS, you need to clean and restock your sources: that one is a bit moldy. leveymg Jul 2013 #29

You believe that the US no longer tortures? David__77 Jul 2013 #31

Ended torture? Ended the practice of forced feeding of prisoners at Guantanamo? Good to know. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #38

Except when we torture. See Gitmo forced feedings. morningfog Jul 2013 #40

Oh my god, some website said it was so... JackRiddler Jul 2013 #46

Politifact has an extraordinary track record unmatched by any other fact-checkers. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #48

A completely irrelevant answer. What's the fact? JackRiddler Jul 2013 #49

Politifact apparently ignores the practices of proxy torture and torture after rendition, both of leveymg Jul 2013 #57

If he doesn't take this deal, they should put it back on the table. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #5

What kind of sweetheart deal can we get for the Carlyle Group? think Jul 2013 #9

You support the execution of Snowden. Noted. morningfog Jul 2013 #41

Is that straight from the Carlyle Group? Or just some other govt. source? think Jul 2013 #6

Because life in prison is so appealing? Cleita Jul 2013 #8

So it makes no difference? treestar Jul 2013 #11

I'm not for the death penalty or even prison except in extreme cases Cleita Jul 2013 #21

You'd be OK with sending them to the army? treestar Jul 2013 #22

We should sentence murderers and rapists to play musical chairs in a prison like the one in Norway. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #26

What a BS false equivalency. Cleita Jul 2013 #33

I never said that. I said there are other ways to punish a Cleita Jul 2013 #27

That actually doesn't sound like a bad idea to me treestar Jul 2013 #39

Thanks. I find our present day system of incarceration Cleita Jul 2013 #44

Russia has the death penalty treestar Jul 2013 #10

Is that what your Carlyle Group handlers told you to say? AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #14

Weren't you there are training this morning? treestar Jul 2013 #17

LOL Scurrilous Jul 2013 #54

espionage carries the death penalty n/t Enrique Jul 2013 #30

He's charged with three statutes and none of them have the death penalty. treestar Jul 2013 #55

Snowden is a unique hearts and minds issue for Putin markiv Jul 2013 #13

Don't believe a damned word of it Vlad... eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #16

But they will use Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #19

Yep, it's a good possibility considering how they have reacted in the past. Cleita Jul 2013 #23

The fact this is even offered indicates their intentions Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #32

The trouble with that is our word is not worth a bucket of warm spit at this point. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #25

So reassuring. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #28

Regardless of one's personal thoughts on the matter, RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #34

Haliburton just got a sweetheart deal Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #35

Such a deal! nt ladjf Jul 2013 #36

life in a federal prison w/ guards daily 'funnin' imo is worse than death Sunlei Jul 2013 #37

That letter is meaningless with respect to what the final charges and sentence faced would be. morningfog Jul 2013 #42

Of course not. KamaAina Jul 2013 #45

Please define Baxtered. JackRiddler Jul 2013 #50

Baxtered = suicided. KamaAina Jul 2013 #51

Right, Baxter... JackRiddler Jul 2013 #52

Like Julian's claims to this treestar Jul 2013 #56

if Snowden releases NSA agents names, Whisp Jul 2013 #47

Just like what happened to the 'outers' of Valerie Plame. Got it. nt snappyturtle Jul 2013 #53