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In reply to the discussion: “Stand Your Ground” Has Got to F***ing Go. [View all]X_Digger
(18,585 posts)76. California does not have a law with that title, but all juries in homicide cases that assert SD
Are given those instructions:
http://www.courts.ca.gov/partners/documents/calcrim_juryins.pdf#page=289
Go ahead, tell me that California's own courts are wrong.
The judicial rulings relate to your questioning that stand one's ground is an old concept.
The laws in some states are explicit. (FL, TX, etc.)
The jury instructions for California are applied to self-defense cases, therefore are relevant.
California has 'Stand Your Ground' by judicial practice, but not law.
In all three cases (California, Texas, Florida), one is not required to retreat before defending themselves. And in all three, the same 'reasonable person' standard is applied, not some nebulous 'feeling'.
eta: LOL, from your own link:
States that have adopted a stand your ground doctrine through judicial interpretation of their self-defense laws are not included in this list:
California is one of those states.
eta2:
You will notice that California is NOT on the list of states with SYG laws.
And you will notice that California is also NOT on the list of states with a duty to retreat.
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or easier to look at twisted data to look at facts...PS...the posters data is twisted.
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#37
So you think there's NO disparity?! NONE at all? You live in the US?! regards
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#38
The number of whites allowed to claim self far far out number those of blacks by the hundreds of %
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#66
The jury got the instructions they needed to acquit and they were SYG instructions.
mountain grammy
Jul 2013
#21
As I said, that is the point. Where there are no such boundaries, no ROE is possible.
riqster
Jul 2013
#42
Yes, I was backed into the doorway of a closed building. So disengagement was not possible.
riqster
Jul 2013
#57
California does not have a law with that title, but all juries in homicide cases that assert SD
X_Digger
Jul 2013
#76
I can't run. I have a disability. I can walk, but at a moderate pace. N/T
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#85