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Maryland Unveils Obamacare Prices - Among Lowest in the U.S. [View all] ProSense Jul 2013 OP

These changes are great! But why is participation mandated? leftstreet Jul 2013 #1

Krugman disagrees with you. Read his piece. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #3

Why do objects fall? And don't give me any of that blah blah about gravity cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #4

bahahhaha! yup. hey, why do seat belts work? and don't give me any crap about Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #11

It's a miracle! zappaman Jul 2013 #75

So you want any response other than the actual answer Recursion Jul 2013 #5

REALLY?! Seniors get fined if they don't buy Medicare? leftstreet Jul 2013 #8

yes in both cases Recursion Jul 2013 #19

Retired seniors don't pay those leftstreet Jul 2013 #24

Because they've already paid them. jazzimov Jul 2013 #40

They paid in advance, prior to being retired. n/t Gore1FL Jul 2013 #43

Of course they did. Also, seniors pay Medicare premiums Recursion Jul 2013 #59

Actually, a premium is taken each month from their social security for Medicare Mass Jul 2013 #81

you have no idea what you are talking about. madrchsod Jul 2013 #62

Paying Medicare levies is ABSOLUTELY mandatory Recursion Jul 2013 #65

you know nothing about insurance. Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #7

I know a lot about nonprofit single payer leftstreet Jul 2013 #9

well a couple of conservadems and 100% of Repukes didn't offer that option Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #12

Democrats arrested single payer advocates leftstreet Jul 2013 #14

your brief accusation screams for more detail Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #18

You need to learn how to use the Google, leftstreet is right. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #76

You said you know a lot about single-payer jazzimov Jul 2013 #28

1 less time than proposed bank bailouts n/t leftstreet Jul 2013 #29

Wrong! jazzimov Jul 2013 #33

I'm going to guess. Bernie? nt valerief Jul 2013 #77

I would LOVE a single-payer jazzimov Jul 2013 #16

And because Ted Kennedy died when he did, changing the composition of the Senate. pnwmom Jul 2013 #57

I would love a single payer system! Just Saying Jul 2013 #31

LOL you both typing off the same script? leftstreet Jul 2013 #32

Yes, it's called "REALITY". jazzimov Jul 2013 #35

No, we're agreeing with each other. Just Saying Jul 2013 #36

Yep! nt jazzimov Jul 2013 #38

Apparently not, if you think it is non-mandatory Recursion Jul 2013 #60

paying into it is a payroll tax. no ifs, ands, or buts. we are taxed on our wages Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #68

Well, sure; you don't have to use your insurance under ACA either Recursion Jul 2013 #69

So, you know that people pay for it? Mass Jul 2013 #82

I disagree. In fact, jazzimov Jul 2013 #13

It is not like SS and Medicare. Not at all leftstreet Jul 2013 #15

How about Medicare Advantage? Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #20

A scam on the working class n/t leftstreet Jul 2013 #26

A scam perpetrated by those same Insurance jazzimov Jul 2013 #30

medicare advantage is not a scam! madrchsod Jul 2013 #70

I didn't call it a scam. But it is a part of Medicare that often involves paying premium to private Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #71

opps..i did`t mean you said that... madrchsod Jul 2013 #73

lolol. enjoy. I'm off to pick my little son up from day care. cheers. Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #74

Its a private plan..... Historic NY Jul 2013 #85

You missed my point. jazzimov Jul 2013 #22

Rates would be lower because the insurance wouldn't just have older and sick people insured. Just Saying Jul 2013 #17

Excellent post! nt jazzimov Jul 2013 #23

You believe insurers will voluntarily lower their rates leftstreet Jul 2013 #27

They have to, when someone else does it. jazzimov Jul 2013 #37

What I believe is that with more people paying for healthcare, Just Saying Jul 2013 #42

Define Voluntary Gore1FL Jul 2013 #55

my hospital bill was close to 500,000 madrchsod Jul 2013 #66

Your story is exactly what every American should fear Generic Other Jul 2013 #91

Krugman explained it, but clearly you plugged your ears and eyes. bluestate10 Jul 2013 #49

my healthy Almost 25 year old son suddenly had seizures at work riverbendviewgal Jul 2013 #78

Because not mandating has been tried -- and failed. pnwmom Jul 2013 #56

For the same reason that the Dutch and Swiss do. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #58

Healthcare.gov BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #2

It is hilarious as evidence mounts that Obamacare will do what it was intended to do in AFFORDABLE Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #6

Yep, lots of sour grapes. sufrommich Jul 2013 #10

Good on Maryland & Obamacare! Cha Jul 2013 #21

Any word on California's rates? GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #25

Here BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #41

Thanks. That actually looks doable for most people. GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #63

yes. right here.... Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #48

Are these kinds of rates only for states that set up exchanges? Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #34

The federal government will be running the Florida exchange. ProSense Jul 2013 #46

So it will be the high rate then since we will have no competition. Thanks.nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #83

I don't think you understand how state or federally run insurance exchanges work Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #87

I live in Fl. We will not have state exchanges. Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #88

Boring! CindySessoms Jul 2013 #39

What does that even mean? sufrommich Jul 2013 #44

post building. eom uppityperson Jul 2013 #84

speaking of boring. I love boring into a hot pizza Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #50

LOL Scurrilous Jul 2013 #90

I'm very much in favor of the concept of Obama / Affordable Health insurance Rene Jul 2013 #45

and this is the fault of Obamacare how? Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #51

My father reached the age of 65 and Medicare sent him Iliyah Jul 2013 #47

so he should sign up, elleng Jul 2013 #53

small price to pay for someone who has ALL OF THIS coverage. He's extremely well set. He should be Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #54

Are you complaining about that? Recursion Jul 2013 #61

Meanwhile all the conservatives and their minions proclaim that they don't know the impact of ACA liberal N proud Jul 2013 #52

Even those rates are out of reach for some people. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #64

Universal Healthcare would be perfect huh. Iliyah Jul 2013 #67

you are misrepresenting how subsidy works. it's not a tax credit you claim Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #72

You get the tax credit ahead of time, not at the end of the year. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #79

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #80

So proud of my state!! Yes, Maryland!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #86

You have a wonderful Governor. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #89

Agreed!!! :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #93

How does that compare to the Universal Health Care most Americans demand? Corruption Inc Jul 2013 #92

This is good news. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #94