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In reply to the discussion: You know what would make me reconsider the Obama administration? [View all]pnwmom
(110,301 posts)China and Russia are hacking into our computer systems every day.
But here are some examples of how our spying has saved lives in the past.
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/eichenwald/2013/06/errors-edward-snowden-global-hypocrisy-tour
. . . But to decide that standard espionage activities are improper is a foolish, ahistorical belief.
N.S.A. surveillance has been beneficial repeatedly in American foreign policy. Although most instances remain secret, we already know that the N.S.A. listened to Soviet pilots during the 1983 shooting down of a South Korean airliner; used intercepted diplomatic messages to track a 1986 Berlin disco bombing to Libya; and used the cell phones SIM cards to track terrorist suspects after the 9/11 attacks.
But lets take a more important example. In 1937at a time when the United States was declaring neutrality in the emerging global tensions that fueled World War IIthe Japanese government created a cipher for its military messages using a device called the 97-shiki O-bun In-ji-ki. The Americans code-named it Purple.
The United States military was able to intercept Japanese communications (the very reason that Tokyo needed a code) but couldnt decrypt the information sent through the Purple machine. William Friedman, the first American cryptography expert who tried to break the code, made some progress before suffering a nervous breakdown. Using that initial information, others managed to break more of the code. Once cracked, the United States could track Japanese naval-troop movements and even intercepted communications containing plans for the Pearl Harbor attackinformation that was not properly used.
Would Snowden have been outraged that the United States was intercepting Japanese data at a time when the countries were not at war? It took years to crack the Purple codewould Snowden think the United States should have waited until after Pearl Harbor to tap into Japanese communication lines, and only then begin the arduous effort to break the code? And if not, then what is his point in turning over these kinds of secrets to the Chinese? All I have to say is, thank God Snowden was not around in 1937, four years before the United States joined the warLord knows how many Americans would have died if he had acted with whatever arrogance, or self-righteousness, or narcissism, or pure treasonous beliefs that drove him to his espionage on behalf of the Chinese.
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