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In reply to the discussion: Snowden has publicly claimed he will be tortured or killed. Holder has assured Russia he won't [View all]Corruption Inc
(1,568 posts)97. Saying that torture doesn't occur is extremely disconnected from reality
Simply saying something does not make it true, there's a thing called "reality" that sane human beings are connected to. In reality, the U.S. does in fact have torture camps and tortures people.
That's not crazy, it's reality.
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Snowden has publicly claimed he will be tortured or killed. Holder has assured Russia he won't [View all]
Recursion
Jul 2013
OP
Here's the difference. Paranoia is about fear of something that doesn't exist, like we are suddenly
Cleita
Jul 2013
#16
Just read the information and if you're open-minded, the rest of the article at the link.
Fire Walk With Me
Jul 2013
#49
Most obviously, you haven't. Giving up as those who reject facts high-five. n/t
Fire Walk With Me
Jul 2013
#53
You're going on Ignore because your "communication" style IS recursion. Nothing you do not want
Fire Walk With Me
Jul 2013
#62
Having personally serve on a jury for a federal trial I know they have trials in federal courts.
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#63
Edmonds is still allowed to speak out. For that matter she told everything to the press years ago
Recursion
Jul 2013
#95
If Bush and Cheney were put on trial, I might believe you. Otherwise, your mere assertion
HardTimes99
Jul 2013
#66
Nor has it been too civilized to torture and assassinate non-combatants.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2013
#4
Hell, it's not even "history". The force feeding and drone wars continue.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2013
#10
I have thought for a while now there was a relationship somehow with libertarians, probably will
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#36
I am all for investigating the crimes Snowden has committed, whether or not he acted alone or is
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#64
Holder was wrong to absolve Bushco and expect to be treated as if Bush had
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#13
The US government had no problem torturing once and no torturers have bee prosecuted
Fumesucker
Jul 2013
#15
Did the new talking point just come out? This is now about not prosecuting Cheney?
Recursion
Jul 2013
#17
I could care less about Snowden; I have said multiple times I hope he quietly gets asylum somewhere
Recursion
Jul 2013
#24
Laws are meaningless unless some effort, however slight, is made to enforce them
Fumesucker
Jul 2013
#25
K&R. Best of luck to you. They really come out of the woodwork when a thread like this is started.
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#26
And the US Navy claimed to have been fired upon by the Vietnamese Navy...
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#34
Both Obama and Holder have said that order would be illegal unless he were actively in arms...
Recursion
Jul 2013
#37
Obama has claimed the right to kill anybody anytime for reasons he deems...
TheProgressive
Jul 2013
#39
Three years of solitary confinement for PFC Manning before a hint of a trial.
Fire Walk With Me
Jul 2013
#41
Careful. That really really sounds like tacit approval. But wait, there's more!
Fire Walk With Me
Jul 2013
#45
Paulbot? You're a jerk to get personal. Can't address a single issue I've presented? Call names.
Fire Walk With Me
Jul 2013
#48
That is utterly wrong--he was in Quantico for 8 months. Quantico is single-cell, only. He was then
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#109
Just another lie by the Lie and Spy Snowden, we have already established he lies on regular basis.
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#51
as long as there is a promise of no torture or death penalty I cannot imagine why ANYONE would
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#57
Can people who believe the shit like this that spews from that Snowden douchebag
baldguy
Jul 2013
#67
Does Holder admit that waterboarding is torture, and that the US has tortured other captives?
quakerboy
Jul 2013
#70
Saying that torture doesn't occur is extremely disconnected from reality
Corruption Inc
Jul 2013
#97