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In reply to the discussion: Am I a Democrat? [View all]gulliver
(13,956 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 27, 2013, 08:52 PM - Edit history (1)
You may not be one of these folks who can't tell the difference between Dems and Republicans, or who think they might not vote against Republicans, or who might join the Greens. I'm talking to those folks, not necessarily you. It's not possible to hold their position and call yourself liberal. It's just not. They need to go to the Greens where they can be ignored as a bloc. They don't deserve to get their grimy fingerprints on the liberal microphone.
Someone whose vote is not reliable is not really a vote that needs to be counted, so a 10x replacement becomes academic. But let's look at the kind of ethically zero-dimensional so-called liberal who wouldn't vote Democratic in the face of the current Republican alternative and think of them as one vote lost for the sake of argument.
That "vote" they think they have liberals over a barrel on isn't worth anything on the net side. It is a net negative, because you have to account for the negative affect of their misguided voices in the public forum. If you are trying to attract everyday people to the liberal cause, you need a clear message and respected leaders. It is not possible to have that when you have a tiny band of self-styled, self-appointed liberal wannabes constantly dragging everyone into the mud.
How many young people hear one of these nitwits comparing Obama to Bush and don't know that it is just meaningless nitwit-ism rather than true liberalism? The same is true of independents and even the Kansas Republicans who really should be Dems. How many need to be turned off by these "Greens in liberal clothing" before we realize that it is real people they are hurting?