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kpete

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Sat Jul 27, 2013, 08:30 PM Jul 2013

BUSHCO: “All rules were thrown out the window & they would use any excuse to spy on Americans" [View all]

They Know Much More Than You Think
AUGUST 15, 2013
James Bamford

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For a quarter of a century, the rules were followed and the NSA stayed out of trouble, but following the September 11 attacks, the Bush administration decided to illegally bypass the court and began its program of warrantless wiretapping. “Basically all rules were thrown out the window and they would use any excuse to justify a waiver to spy on Americans,” I was told by Adrienne J. Kinne, who in 2001 was a twenty-four-year-old voice intercept operator who conducted some of the eavesdropping. She or her superiors did not have to get a warrant for each interception. “It was incredibly uncomfortable to be listening to private personal conversations of Americans,” she said. “And it’s almost like going through and stumbling and finding somebody’s diary and reading it.”

All during this time, however, the Bush administration was telling the American public the opposite: that a warrant was obtained whenever an American was targeted. “Anytime you hear the United States government talking about a wiretap, it requires—a wiretap requires a court order,” President George W. Bush told a crowd in 2004. “Nothing has changed, by the way. When we’re talking about chasing down terrorists, we’re talking about getting a court order before we do so.” After exposure of the operation by The New York Times in 2005, however, rather than strengthen the controls governing the NSA’s spying, Congress instead voted to weaken them, largely by codifying into the amendment to FISA what had previously been illegal.

At the same time, rather than calling for prosecution of the telecom officials for their role in illegally cooperating in the eavesdropping program, or at least a clear public accounting, Congress simply granted them immunity not only from prosecution but also from civil suits. Thus, for nearly a century, telecom companies have been allowed to violate the privacy of millions of Americans with impunity.

With the arrival of the Obama administration, the NSA’s powers continued to expand at the same time that administration officials and the NSA continued to deceive the American public on the extent of the spying. In addition to the denial I have mentioned by James Clapper, General Keith Alexander, the NSA director, also blatantly denied that his agency was keeping records on millions of Americans. In March 2012, Wired magazine published a cover story I wrote on the new one-million-square-foot NSA data center being built in Bluffdale, Utah. In the article, I interviewed William Binney, a former high-ranking NSA official who was largely responsible for automating the agency’s worldwide eavesdropping network. He quit the agency in 2001 in protest after he saw the system designed mainly for intelligence about foreign threats turned inward on the American public. In the interview, he told how the agency was tapping into the country’s communications and Internet networks. He revealed that it also was secretly obtaining warrantless access to billions of phone records of Americans, including those of both AT&T and Verizon. “They’re storing everything they gather,” he said.


the rest:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/aug/15/nsa-they-know-much-more-you-think/

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K&R. Here's an example of why the Obama admin turned a blind eye to BushCo's lawbreaking. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #1
I don't think MuseRider Jul 2013 #3
again Chaco Dundee Jul 2013 #18
the intelligence agenda was in "safe hands" and the elites knew it. grasswire Jul 2013 #27
Now that's a conspiracy theory pscot Jul 2013 #31
Yes, and I think it has a lot of credence. The Oligarch-Cabal that was running the country rhett o rick Jul 2013 #35
so it seems Chaco Dundee Jul 2013 #32
I don't believe McCain had a choice about the matter. grasswire Jul 2013 #33
It was a poke in the eye to our camp Hydra Jul 2013 #41
yes Chaco Dundee Jul 2013 #45
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #2
9/11 changed everything, they meant it in a way I see Rex Jul 2013 #4
9/11 - The Day The American Constitution Died cantbeserious Jul 2013 #5
Actually, it died on December 12, 2000 (when Bush v. Gore SCOTUS ruling HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #20
November 22, 1963 AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #34
well, there's rules now, so you can rest assured the NSA, etc, are following them. KG Jul 2013 #6
why Obama took a cue from Bush and went along with this nonsense quinnox Jul 2013 #7
Hard to return candy to the store kpete Jul 2013 #8
EXCELLENT metaphor, kpete. calimary Jul 2013 #11
so sad kpete Jul 2013 #13
You know, abrupt flip-flops in stated positions can be a warning sign... Pholus Jul 2013 #9
An epiphany prompted by seeing the rancid RW light indepat Jul 2013 #15
Perhaps, but TIA was solely a RW abuse... Pholus Jul 2013 #30
Oh, now. Surely if the Bush admin. had done anything illegal Congress Solly Mack Jul 2013 #10
If only the Congress could not discard the parts of the Constitution not to their liking indepat Jul 2013 #16
I'm sure they were looking out for us then as they are now. Solly Mack Jul 2013 #21
Neither had I. The nonchalance with which big brother is using his muscle to stomp and indepat Jul 2013 #22
Truthfully, they cannot! That stated, to amend the constitution must take the congress mrdmk Jul 2013 #46
Why am I suddenly thinking about Raplh Nader? n/t Skip Intro Jul 2013 #12
Well out of fairness the acceleration was also due to Generic Other Jul 2013 #14
It seems every post on DU is now "Ten yrs ago Bush did some crappy shit..." baldguy Jul 2013 #17
Obama haters start pinning 9/11 on him too? Caretha Jul 2013 #24
Stupid is blaming Obama for shit that happened years before he got into office. baldguy Jul 2013 #38
Jesus on a pogo stick LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #25
Both should be blamed mindwalker_i Jul 2013 #29
lol Hydra Jul 2013 #42
No matter which side you come down on... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #19
Yep. Makes sense now why going after bush "is off the table". Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #23
republicans in congress wanted extreme executive powers sigmasix Jul 2013 #26
I hope that came with a sarcasm tag Hydra Jul 2013 #43
there it is grasswire Jul 2013 #28
+100 nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #39
Sunday kick nt grasswire Jul 2013 #40
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People want a voice in this matter felix_numinous Jul 2013 #44
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