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Vincardog

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11. The toxic sludge that is going to come out of Canada spells the end of a livable world environment.

Tue Feb 21, 2012, 05:41 PM

Feb 2012

It would require VAST degradation of Canada's water and land to produce and more to refine (and that is why they can not build a refinery for it in Canada.).
It will RAISE the price of gas in middle America because it is currently refined and sold in the US.
If it were sent down to the Koch brothers refinery in Houston for export it would
DECREASE the amount of gas we have available and cost jobs.
The only thing we would get out of the deal is an increase in gas prices
along with an associated increase in the disease, death and destruction wrought by big oil.
It is very simple Why should we put our AIR water and land at risk to subsides the Chinese demand for oil?
What do we get out of it? Higher prices less work and all the risk.

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We subsidize the oil companies and... [View all] SHRED Feb 2012 OP

and in the context of Keystone XL Pipeline... handmade34 Feb 2012 #1

We get the socialized environmental risk...they get the profits. Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #3

one of the most important handmade34 Feb 2012 #4

We should send Big Oil a bill every year for about 1/3 of the Defense Budget. Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #5

You'd think that little factoid would get mentioned in the popular media gratuitous Feb 2012 #17

They don't call themselve's CONservatives for nothing. Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #2

I'm sorry, but this just seems like basic economic ignorance Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #6

Then at least the US should be TAXING the oil as it "flows thru" Vincardog Feb 2012 #7

The refiners are already taxed. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #8

So in your mind it is good that the only thing we get out of the deal is the Environmental Vincardog Feb 2012 #9

Oil's going to be refined anyway, like it or not Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #10

The toxic sludge that is going to come out of Canada spells the end of a livable world environment. Vincardog Feb 2012 #11

It won't decrease the amount available, for a start Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #12

I beg to differ. If the oil that is now refined and sold in the USA is exported to China it Vincardog Feb 2012 #13

It doesn't decrease the amount available. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #14

The filthy oil sand is not on the world market now. The pipeline's purpose is to bring it to the Vincardog Feb 2012 #15

Sure it is Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #16