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In reply to the discussion: The goal of the propaganda assaults across the internet is not to convince anyone of anything.* [View all]

woo me with science

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163. Look at what they are accomplishing more broadly, and this fits right in.
Reply to Fumesucker (Reply #15)
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jul 2013

Silence Occupy with clubs and pepper spray.

Deter ordinary citizens from joining protests as a result of the brutality toward and surveillance of protesters.

Criminalizing behaviors that define investigative journalism and silencing journalists and potential sources with surveillance and lawsuits.

Legalizing propaganda aimed at US citizens as journalism is being silenced.

Silence whistleblowers by targeting and pursuing them even to other countries.

Requiring governmment employees to inform on one another when dissent is suspected.

Waging lawsuits against whistleblower protections.

Preventing DHS employees from reading news about the NSA.

The massive surveillance system which chills free speech and free association and has the capability of identifying and suppressing any dissent before it even takes shape.

And polluting the remaining public spaces for discussion and organizing online.



What have I missed? Put it all together, and it's a chilling portrait of a government focused on eliminating the avenues for serious dissent.






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The goal of the propaganda assaults across the internet is not to convince anyone of anything.* [View all] woo me with science Jul 2013 OP
+1000 notadmblnd Jul 2013 #1
+1000^1000 bananas Jul 2013 #169
Chomsky Says Young People Don't Care About Surveillance -- Is He Right? ProSense Jul 2013 #2
Surprising you showed up here to address propaganda. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #7
Which part is "propaganda"? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #12
Which part is "propaganda"? n/ Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #37
+10000 heaven05 Jul 2013 #213
The part where his worldview was contradicted WatermelonRat Jul 2013 #231
Wait a minute, didn't you just do jazzimov Jul 2013 #23
The links she posts are to HER OWN POSTS. JimDandy Jul 2013 #34
The first link is to someone else's post, ProSense Jul 2013 #38
And the second link is to one of your posts. NealK Jul 2013 #70
Not to wade into this too much Peacetrain Jul 2013 #81
I don't click on her links which I have told her many times Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #91
I agree with you-- engage in the thread you're in. Marr Jul 2013 #138
ProSense "backed up" her own post here... ljm2002 Jul 2013 #153
You're completely wrong in assessing what you are clearly seeing. reusrename Jul 2013 #173
The only links I've ever seen her post are links to her OWN posts. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #175
And here you are! We will not allow discussion of the spying and lying to be shut down. chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #24
Equal blame ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #100
Neither of the links you provide... ljm2002 Jul 2013 #151
"Always rising to absolve Republicans of any blame" NuclearDem Jul 2013 #180
You just demonstrated the OP's point as no one else could. Brewinblue Jul 2013 #181
+1 nt laundry_queen Jul 2013 #242
K&R Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #3
Yep get the red out Jul 2013 #4
Yup nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #5
Yes, don't respond to them. n/t LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #8
That is exactly the best way to handle it. Don't feed it or try to reason with it by kicking sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #13
Shh, new ideas they don't need nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #14
Old habits die hard, as they have proven over and over, throughout the years. Not much sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #84
+1,000,000 n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #53
That is exactly right. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #93
If you don't debate and engage, by definition you form your own echo chamber. randome Jul 2013 #94
I wish they'd put people on ignore, rather than just claiming they do and then attacking other DUers Violet_Crumble Jul 2013 #191
Debate on DU -like Democracy itself- is a messy process. randome Jul 2013 #193
More and more, I am thinking that you are absolutely right. nt woo me with science Jul 2013 #97
I just posted something similar in another thread Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #6
K&R. This thread has already touched a nerve I see. Good OP. nt stillwaiting Jul 2013 #9
Yup. Anti Obama liberals better start a secret Google group Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #10
Feel free to abstain from posting in the thread if you feel it is pointless. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #17
Isn't that limiting discussion? jazzimov Jul 2013 #27
Of course not. If the poster has some points to contribute Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #82
No. I want my opinion heard that this is a ridiculous direction to go at DU Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #28
Blind loyalty is the wrong direction to go. It's not Democratic. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #177
i've noticed you take issue with this line of discussion. "pointless" you say. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #29
I notice that many of the articles I read the first comment is weight-loss spam Generic Other Jul 2013 #44
maybe looking for a % of trustable social media interactions is the wrong metric nashville_brook Jul 2013 #48
I just wondered if anyone knew how many people are actively engaged Generic Other Jul 2013 #55
social media "optimization" is being used every PR campaign nashville_brook Jul 2013 #60
Seems like they should have their own agency then Generic Other Jul 2013 #62
Almost certainly, I worked for a small internet provider and part of my day was spent TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #117
Pres Obama embraces the Patriot Act and domestic spying. I am anti Patriot Act. I assume you are pro rhett o rick Jul 2013 #176
To assume that someone holds equal and opposite positions from you... Blanks Aug 2013 #245
Spot on! PsyOps Writ Large. or rather Posted Large. Divernan Jul 2013 #11
I gotta admit the signal to noise ratio here in GD is pathetic these days Fumesucker Jul 2013 #15
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Generic Other Jul 2013 #45
Look at what they are accomplishing more broadly, and this fits right in. woo me with science Jul 2013 #163
precisely -- so glad the jury system here seems to be holding up! nashville_brook Jul 2013 #16
The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.): snot Jul 2013 #18
Read a little, it's like reading "The Screwtape Letters" rwsanders Jul 2013 #51
very informative link. thanks. bbgrunt Jul 2013 #52
Sounded like Barney Fife wrote it Generic Other Jul 2013 #66
Thanks for the link, bookmarked for later ... sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #141
Absolutely Essential Link to Read! NuttyFluffers Jul 2013 #152
Excellent. I just bookkmarked it. It's invaluable Catherina Jul 2013 #215
They've been on DU for many years now Gman Jul 2013 #19
Yes, collective action is alwasy to be stopped, but better yet, prevented. nt PETRUS Jul 2013 #20
K&R It is happening here for sure. felix_numinous Jul 2013 #21
You mean like the posts on Greenwald and Snowden? Th1onein Jul 2013 #132
K&R forestpath Jul 2013 #22
Which explains several nonsensical arguments Fearless Jul 2013 #25
Did you think of this yourself? caseymoz Jul 2013 #26
uh oh, my bad hfojvt Jul 2013 #32
You should start drinking after five a.m. caseymoz Jul 2013 #147
See, e.g., this: snot Jul 2013 #36
See also this: snot Jul 2013 #39
Okay, thank you. Those are great sources. caseymoz Jul 2013 #158
"And how can software argue a point so well that it always has the last word?" LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #201
It could, but that's just noise. caseymoz Jul 2013 #225
There is no need to pay everyone. Just get 'the ball rolling' and others will chime in sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #88
"Attack the messenger ploy" Th1onein Jul 2013 #133
Non sequitur ploy. caseymoz Jul 2013 #159
Welcome to my ignore list, caseymoz. Th1onein Jul 2013 #166
Since discussion with you was worthless caseymoz Jul 2013 #200
seems to me hfojvt Jul 2013 #30
So that would apply to all the 'look at Greenwald, he's gay' threads and the Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #40
+1000 ! n/t jaysunb Jul 2013 #123
K&R Phlem Jul 2013 #31
Thanks, woo. K&R nt Zorra Jul 2013 #33
If you disagree with someone, just claim she/he is a sockpuppet spreading propaganda ProSense Jul 2013 #35
No one is going to accuse someone of sockpuppet propaganda for supporting labor unions here. Zorra Jul 2013 #41
Advocating for the apprehension of an individual shawn703 Jul 2013 #49
Sometimes the shoe fits. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #86
I'd say that that depends on what that someone reveled. RC Jul 2013 #98
If he only released shawn703 Jul 2013 #116
Other countries... or the whole rest of the world, as to what our country was doing wrong to its RC Jul 2013 #121
Like I said in my post shawn703 Jul 2013 #128
Domestic and foreign are one and the same. NSA is collecting information on everyone, everywhere. RC Jul 2013 #130
What did that have to do with IP addresses of specific machines in China? shawn703 Jul 2013 #155
What are you talking about? RC Jul 2013 #172
What exactly are you arguing? shawn703 Jul 2013 #186
The battle of Midway was almost 70 year ago. We were actually at war. We were attacked by them. RC Jul 2013 #198
That foreign surveillance is in our national interests shawn703 Jul 2013 #202
How is hoovering up the Internet in our best interest? RC Jul 2013 #205
We're talking about two different things I think shawn703 Jul 2013 #216
You are going kind of far astray from the OP RC Jul 2013 #217
The post I replied to shawn703 Jul 2013 #221
You seem young and have much to learn. RC Jul 2013 #222
And there's the ad hominem shawn703 Jul 2013 #223
I don't believe China has any legitimate right to my communications so I don't believe we TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #228
Not a whole lot of information made it to the press shawn703 Jul 2013 #235
I invite them to get an individual warrant if that is the case, which of course we don't know TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #239
IT'S NOT ABOUT SNOWDEN, IT'S ABOUT THE SPYING. IT'S NOT ABOUT SNOWDEN, IT'S ABOUT Th1onein Jul 2013 #135
You're right, and the quicker he is apprehended shawn703 Jul 2013 #156
LOL! Who do you think you're kidding? Th1onein Jul 2013 #165
Don't forget to take your marbles! shawn703 Jul 2013 #185
Advocating for the .........is CHANGING THE SUBJECT Th1onein Jul 2013 #134
I'm not even sure I'd use the term "advocating". winter is coming Jul 2013 #227
So ProSense Jul 2013 #59
And some of them don't fool anybody, but are still here. Zorra Jul 2013 #154
You are right!n What good people do is repeat what was said to them and add some Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #43
+1 treestar Jul 2013 #67
Activate crisis management mode! nt Union Scribe Jul 2013 #167
Correct. On the internet, if you get mad, you lose. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #42
K&R. Exactly. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #46
That might be your funniest post, yet. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #50
I don't see it as much here, but on a lot of other forums Populist_Prole Jul 2013 #47
I notice RW trolls all the time. Notafraidtoo Jul 2013 #69
Try going to the comments sections of newspaper web sites. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #102
How true. Online newspaper website comments sections are the absolute worst Populist_Prole Jul 2013 #107
Yahoo articles........nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #113
And I thought they were here to improve their English and spelling Coyotl Jul 2013 #54
This is where I love the ignore list Catherina Jul 2013 #56
You forgot the period after 'vs'. randome Jul 2013 #92
"I like to think for myself." Thank you for the early morning laugh. morningfog Jul 2013 #189
Of course it isn't. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #57
+10 RC Jul 2013 #106
K&R! Segami Jul 2013 #58
I think their is certainly circumstantial evidence of this Android3.14 Jul 2013 #61
What you just did. n/t chervilant Jul 2013 #120
I don't understand. Android3.14 Jul 2013 #160
hmm... chervilant Jul 2013 #190
What about Freedom of Speech? treestar Jul 2013 #63
Silencing critics of the status quo really supports freedom of speech leftstreet Jul 2013 #74
Nobody is silenced treestar Jul 2013 #76
Who is 'we?' n/t leftstreet Jul 2013 #77
Too tolerant, imo. FSogol Jul 2013 #83
There are principles involved. Truth and facts. RC Jul 2013 #109
Good one! nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #87
'woo me' has authority over your mind? how did that happen? I thought it was corporate & big HiPointDem Jul 2013 #143
More noise. Less signal. Yep. n/t DirkGently Jul 2013 #64
L.O.L.!.!.!. Whisp Jul 2013 #65
For real. Didn't this person post almost the exact same thread with almost the exact same Number23 Jul 2013 #241
Let them try and get banned for doing so. Rex Jul 2013 #68
DURec leftstreet Jul 2013 #71
Good to know... midnight Jul 2013 #72
100% correct. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #73
honestly, i don't sees it. Apart from the occasional troll or Evoman Jul 2013 #75
no, that's what it USED to be Skittles Jul 2013 #105
You mean like in the religion group? defacto7 Jul 2013 #164
K&R snappyturtle Jul 2013 #78
K&R NealK Jul 2013 #79
It's pretty easy to detour around the shills. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #80
+1 Very good points leftstreet Jul 2013 #85
Question: ProSense Jul 2013 #90
Oh good, two more links to your own posts LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #204
Both are links to NYT articles posted here. sufrommich Jul 2013 #209
Both are links to her own posts LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #210
Don't pages move higher in search engines when they are referenced from other pages? newthinking Jun 2014 #246
The one thing that SHOULD distinguish Progressives from Conservatives... randome Jul 2013 #89
"In the case of the 'surveillance state' you -for whatever reason- want to believe exists..." Th1onein Jul 2013 #137
I think it's a safe assumption since S&G have failed to provide evidence. randome Jul 2013 #145
No randome , it is YOU AND YOURS that have the burden of proof because you are making the TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #233
I have no problem whatsoever with more transparency and less secrecy. randome Jul 2013 #234
Yeah, we may not be as far apart as one might think as seen from the surface TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #240
sigh.... blackspade Jul 2013 #211
Why do you use the word 'facts' when we don't have any? randome Jul 2013 #230
LOL blackspade Jul 2013 #238
You mean no evidence other than the court ruling, right? LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #212
Oh, you mean the FISA court that you don't trust? That's...ironic. randome Jul 2013 #229
LOL LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #236
Spot on! Veilex Jul 2013 #95
Exactly. If I were Skinner, I'd be merciless with the banhammer. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #96
Which makes ya wonder nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #99
You're not the only one... n/t backscatter712 Jul 2013 #101
Wow. That is quite an accusation Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #103
It is funny PowerToThePeople Jul 2013 #108
Yup nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #111
Yep. DU is starting to smell like a "free speech zone." n/t backscatter712 Jul 2013 #119
If you were in my shoes nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #110
I know you feel put-upon and bullied RudynJack Jul 2013 #122
Yes they are and my list of worst offenders Skidmore Jul 2013 #192
I have put the swooners on ignore and I suggest all thinking people do the same Skittles Jul 2013 #104
Most of them are there, indeed nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #114
???? is it weather related? Skittles Jul 2013 #124
Oh good question nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #126
+1. Another talking point "Those who like Real Discussion don't use ignore." backscatter712 Jul 2013 #118
BACKSCATTER712 KNOWS THE SCORE Skittles Jul 2013 #125
+1 woo me with science Jul 2013 #196
I disagree a little bit on this. blackspade Jul 2013 #214
I do occasionally peek. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #220
Not a bad idea.... blackspade Jul 2013 #226
What? And cut down on the laffs? (n/t) spooky3 Jul 2013 #168
I no longer find them amusing Skittles Jul 2013 #170
They absolutely are disgusting. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #188
I rec but I think you are somewhat "mis-underestimating" the effort to shift the spectrum of TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #112
Uhmmmm Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #129
this is perhaps the most distressing sort of comment that could be posted on DU nashville_brook Jul 2013 #139
You missed my point altogether. The person posing this as conflict and drama is you Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #146
i take your point from the totality of your posts...and in that context, I completely got your drift nashville_brook Jul 2013 #157
This effort has been going on for decades, it is Turd Way SOP. TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #237
Big brother simply will not tolerate impudence related to exposure of the establishment's indepat Jul 2013 #115
The ignore feature works like a charm. Change has come Jul 2013 #127
The government has been doing this forever. The CIA, for instance, infiltrated universities yardwork Jul 2013 #131
One or two work for groups like NOM, that's super clear. RCC and LDS as well. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #149
Concern trolling 101! yardwork Jul 2013 #224
True dat Vincardog Jul 2013 #136
Gosh. I thought I was the only one who noticed that! bvar22 Jul 2013 #140
i've noticed this too madrchsod Jul 2013 #162
A quote from Henry A Wallace VP under FDR: Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #142
KnR nt tblue37 Jul 2013 #144
Yes, that's what I think is going on also... ljm2002 Jul 2013 #148
On a related note, I notice some disrupters have similar posting styles such to make me think GoneFishin Jul 2013 #150
Exactly DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #161
It's true that disrupters are everywhere on the net defacto7 Jul 2013 #171
^this^ OP is spot on. n/t susanna Jul 2013 #174
+1 Poll_Blind Jul 2013 #178
KKKKKKKK&RRRRRRRRR! Lint Head Jul 2013 #179
It's easy to underestimate the value of DU. mahina Jul 2013 #182
What you've written is absolutely true. What a shame. Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #183
K&R - Related: DeSwiss Jul 2013 #184
Yep. If a poster is paid to post by an official, they are by definition a troll. morningfog Jul 2013 #187
yahoo and other trollvilles deancr Jul 2013 #194
K&R nt TBF Jul 2013 #195
Pro Smear and the Plus Ones bobduca Jul 2013 #197
Yes I've noticed... malokvale77 Jul 2013 #232
+1 daleanime Jul 2013 #199
K&R n/t myrna minx Jul 2013 #203
But look at the valuable service they provide!! JNelson6563 Jul 2013 #206
I don't think it's quite that cohesive and organized, but I do think it's an example of how cecilfirefox Jul 2013 #207
+1000 blackspade Jul 2013 #208
Skinner needs to grow a pair and ban the propagandists. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #218
Notice that the organization part has been stifled here. That's the point. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #219
Kick to the Top bvar22 Aug 2013 #243
Thanks for this Woo! Hydra Aug 2013 #244
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