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In reply to the discussion: 'Frequently Told Lies' about Glenn Greenwald, by Glenn Greenwald. [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)104. Lol, good one. Thanks for the link.
Illogical! Illogical!
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Thanks for an example of one of the six lies. You are free to read the correction made by
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#3
Why didn't all those Democrats, Kerry, Clinton et al, know, and why have they never
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#18
And yet you supported for Sec of Defense a Republican who voted for the Iraq War and for
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#31
Again, it is unfair and hypocritical on a very basic level to criticize one person for doing that
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#44
Again, Greenwald was gullible is not an excuse. He supported the Iraq war. n/t
ProSense
Jul 2013
#45
Yes, I opposed the war. Greenwald supported it. His excuse is "hypocritical double standard blather"
ProSense
Jul 2013
#58
You continue to avoid the very obvious fact that Greenwald was a private and unknown
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#262
Correction: Kerry was against the INVASION of Iraq. He voted for IWR, then when inspectors
blm
Jul 2013
#80
chimp, what the hell has gotten into you? Just because you got burned by Edwards doesn't
blm
Jul 2013
#134
REDUNDANT (It's linked in the OP) But thank you for illustrating the point
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#196
Has anyone noticed GG has attempted to smear the current adminstration with events
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#2
I don't watch the Corporate Media anymore. You made a claim, if you can't provide proof
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#9
The proof was on this morning, if you don't watch corporate media than you are not interested in
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#13
Can you prove GG was not on Meet the Press this morning? Prove he was not on the show.
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#17
If that was the topic, I would not question something so easily proven. You otoh, are
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#19
You apparently don't like proof GG lies, can't help you, I gave you proof but you don't have proof
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#30
So you lied?? For what purpose? I don't know or care whether he was on MTP or not.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#33
Then why did you ask for proof? I wonder if you are interested in the truth but then you have to
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#131
"The magistrate judge granted both motions, finding defense counsel's conduct unethical under two
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#7
There it is, right on cue. Thank you for providing exhibit #1 of what Greenwald has
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#10
You are doing what you always do, although it's good to see the lie that he was ever
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#24
Kindly cite, specifically, where I ever claimed he was "sanctioned." He lost the case for his client
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#26
When violate your client's privilege, it's a pretty big deal. Screwing up 26(b)(3), followed by a
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#43
Yes, that would be serious. Fortunately for his client, that was not the case here.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#263
That is exactly what happened here, which is why the court ruled against him and granted the motion
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#269
Yes, he lost one case. Is that a crime now, because if it is there are a whole lot of far worse
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#284
Really? What lies did he tell? I look forward to discussing the content of the linked
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#14
Well, he's depending on his supporters being too ignorant about the law on #6.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#23
Well, he didn't get away with it. Glenn apparently was dumb enough to wiretap--and make transcripts
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#40
Um--the New York Bar thought taping was improper, too. See post 62, referencing Glenn's case.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#72
lol "wiretapping",. he was recording a witness by phone,. not tapping it like the NSA does!
Civilization2
Jul 2013
#78
I know, they are funny, more entertaining than anything on TV. I love this thread.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#237
Lol, are you serious? We know the law, we know the law differs from state to state,
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#28
Ahem---so wiretapping a witness is okay? Because that's not what this court found.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#35
Not just wiretapping a witness--making a transcript of it and being stupid enough to
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#51
Except that is a lie. But don't let that bother you. I notice you haven't taken my invitation
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#52
Taping in NY was improper, too. Here's the NY State Bar Opinion, citing Glenn's case:
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#62
I live in NY and have spent hours in NY courts and this was not just legal it was well
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#63
Okay--so after being shown the NY State Bar Opinion that contradicts you, you say wiretapping
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#67
The NY Bar where Mr. Greenwald's license is suspended? Like I said, Sabrina, your defense of wire-
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#74
Now you really are reaching a new low. Greenwald's license was NEVER suspended, he
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#76
This truly is shameful. What a totally transparent example of how propaganda is applied.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#95
I have no idea why he is 'suspended' as opposed to 'resigned.' If I were winding up a law practice
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#103
You would know if you wanted to know. All you had to was to read the OP linked article.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#109
No--he is not "in good standing." He is "suspended." I am sure he has a very good reason
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#115
He is in good standing, all he has to do is pay the fee if he ever decides to return to
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#117
I'm wading through DU now. And I'm seeing thread after thread about sock puppet hysteria
Number23
Jul 2013
#170
It's the online equivalent of looking for the black helicopters. It's actually pretty funny.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#176
they sound like cultists, worshippers, and apologists to me.... sweet bebe jesuS GG...
dionysus
Jul 2013
#84
"Personas" seem to be new insult. Paid by the NSA, I think. Did you get your check? nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#86
And there it is again, the old 'worship' talking point. I'll tell you what I respect, JOURNALISM
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#112
Is the NY State Bar computer in on the conspiracy to smear Mr. Greenwald? nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#116
The NY State Bar computer correctly informed the public that Greenwald is not practicing law
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#127
Attorneys who are suspended are not allowed to practice law in NY State. If this was voluntary
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#136
Again, thanks for this demonstration of how lies and smears are made. But once again,
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#147
No, definitely not the funniest thing I've ever written. I've written some hilarious stuff. You
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#155
I cannot wait for you tell Glenn Greenwald how the NY State Bar computer is smearing him
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#158
Why would I do that? He knows what the Bar computer does when someone voluntarily
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#167
Well I'm sorry, but I don't believe any attorney would not know that this is standard
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#177
Um no--it's not standard practice in NY State or anywhere else. In NY State, lawyers who don't
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#184
Uh yes, it is. As I said, any attorney would know this is standard for the Bar Assoc. to do.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#187
By making wild accusations that people are using British tabloids when they are not?
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#205
Don't change the subject, you are spreading disinfo to smear a journalist who is doing his job
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#208
I am not the one who brought up British Tabloids...and doesn't Greenwald write for one, anyway?
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#212
Well, doesn't Greenwald write for The Guardian? I'm not the one who brought up
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#272
I agree...which is why I have no idea why Sabrina would bring up British Tabloids in the
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#276
You're welcome, it is a bit exhausting, but it was worth it to see how it is done.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#203
Sabrina, have you retracted your wild accusation that I was using a British tabloid? nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#206
Of course, which you know already. Still trying to distract from the fact that you just spent
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#209
No, I don't answer your questions anymore. I still speak with you because you are useful.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#211
The only reason I speak with you is because you are very useful as you were tonight,
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#216
You didn't answer my question about citing your claim that his suspension was over fees...
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#220
Lol, when losing the battle, try going on the offensive. Lawyer tactic? Possibly or just
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#223
Still can't cite it, Sabrina? Where's the cite that Glenn is suspended because he didn't pay fees?nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#230
The NYDaily Record is a legal newspaper, not a British tabloid rag. If you are a court reporter in
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#200
Yes, my one mistake throughout this very revealing subthread. Thanks for your assistance
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#207
I will tell you what I tell every single DUer who challenges whether or not I am an attorney....
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#210
I really don't care what you are. But no attorney would make the false claims you made and
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#213
How easily you back down, Sabrina. Now, I've asked you to cite Mr. Greenwald's claim that his
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#218
Of course you cannot cite the claim that Mr. Greenwald is suspended over fees, can you? nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#222
I'm asking you to show me where Mr. Greenwald says the answer....now, I get that you
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#235
Still don't know the standard procedures of the NY State Bar Association.n/t
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#238
Again--can you cite your claim that Mr. Greenwald is claiming that his suspension is over fees?
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#239
Still can't find it in the OP, lol! It's not working, the game. It doesn't distract from
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#242
Hey--if you see it in the OP, why not just copy it and show it? And if you've got a cite
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#243
Well, don't be coy Sabrina! If you've got a part in your OP where Glenn explains why his license is
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#250
I admit I have encouraged you to demonstrate how little you know about the law.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#251
Which law would that be? Could you cite the law I am apparently in ignorance of? nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#253
Thank you---and I think he is not telling the truth. This explanation makes no sense---
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#270
Those who don't feel the need to pay for something they are not using and don't intend to use again.
unapatriciated
Jul 2013
#274
Then there are legal options that do not violate the ethical code one has sworn to.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#277
There is one very good reason, to try to distract and use up time and energy.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#280
I'm Simply Unworthy And Ill Equipped To Counter The Brilliance of Your nth Dimensional
Skraxx
Jul 2013
#317
Amazing how little you know about the NY State Bar Assoc. and the standard procedures that
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#282
Just to explain why I refused to comply with the 'request' for a link. I knew the game that was
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#333
Lol, perfect, exactly what I knew you would do if I had entertained your pretense that you
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#332
They may be how your license operates--it is not how a law license operates.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#323
Thank you so much for verifying what most people, especially attorneys or other license holders in
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#334
Your 'question' was completely unwarranted. I do not know Greenwald other than by his
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#81
So you have no proof of anything you are speculating about. Here on DU we generally
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#120
Oh there are shills here. No doubt about that. And while most of us know who they most
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#129
You can't 'snark' period. Don't give up your day job, unlike Greenwald, who was able to
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#143
No, you missed it, but I already stated upthread somewhere, that i am the Queen of France.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#335
And you gotta love the poster who joined in 2008 attempting to "school" the poster who joined
Number23
Jul 2013
#165
Never answer its questions. Never look at its links..and watch it skate in circles.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#311
Where was the 'actual attorney'? I saw a person who claims to be an attorney display a stunning
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#336
Do you know how it was "resolved?" Greenwald had to turn over the tapes and transcripts after
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#70
I first read and respected Greenwald as one of the most cogent, effective and vigorous critics
enough
Jul 2013
#36
Thank you for your comment. Exactly how a majority of people feel about those who
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#39
He certainly has scared the living daylights out of someone or someones for them to struggle
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#99
Thanks for posting this. Greenwald's FTL only reinforces how low the opposition has sunk
Catherina
Jul 2013
#42
It shows how hard the opposition researchers worked to try to discredit him, and still
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#47
I see you didn't read the OP. Thanks for providing an exhibit of what the OP .
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#53
No, what's cult-like is taking whatever he says as truth just because he says it.
Galraedia
Jul 2013
#89
DU has the dubious distinction of being the main source of spreading one of those lies
Catherina
Jul 2013
#64
How shameful, for DU. It's not like anyone takes this small contingency seriously here
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#66
Yes, and that is unfair representation of DU's opinion of all of this. But I guess
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#75
He's not the issue when it comes to the NSA surveillance program, but when we got to such
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#88
Lol, you can say that again! I have not had this fun in a long time. The gang's all here!
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#231
No, wish I did. Maybe you could explain, I am ashamed to admit to not having been a Trekkie.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#96
The hate for Glenn is up to 11 today because he's releasing another article that will put
neverforget
Jul 2013
#94
Yes, but it won't work, the more they attack journalists, the worse they look and the more
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#100
'You guys'. Link to a post of mine that ever mentioned 'hero worship'. Thanks, I'll wait.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#113
You are not making much sense here tonight. Breitbart was the liar. And who exactly do
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#124
As I said, and I will repeat it just for you, 'you are not making much sense here tonight'.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#135
Bravo! You deserve the internet equivalent of a Pulitzer for this thread and
HardTimes99
Jul 2013
#125
Lol, thank you! Not sure about a Pulitzer, but the thread sure has helped to prove the whole
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#140
Lol, who is this person who thinks he CAN attack someone and not expect a response??
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#144
No, I wouldn't. I dealt very succinctly with the 'content'. An unknown blogger was linked to
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#153
Do I? Thanks for your concern, but I was of the opinion that you were pretty upset.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#164
Was it? Well, you may be right but this isn't about ME. This is about the attacks on Journalists
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#175
A prominent news paper doesn't agree with you. But there you go again, focusing on
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#182
To repeat your own question to me a few posts up, 'can't you use your own words
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#189
Glen clearly states he was wrong on some things- which doesn't automatically mean he is
Swagman
Jul 2013
#325
Sabrina is going to send this whole thread to Glenn, per her threats upthread. Are you scared yet?nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#160
OMFG.....we need an app for that on DU!!! It should go straight to Glen! Oh--and in other news,
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#186
I love this sub thread. Amazing to watch. I wouldn't bore GG with such childishness. But
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#240
Where's the cite that Glenn is suspended because he didn't pay fees? When you send this thread
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#241
Unfortunately for the smear campaign, the only one who can't find it is YOU!
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#244
If you've got the cite, why not just copy and paste it? Don't be coy! And when you send this off
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#246
If I cared I would do so. I'm much happier watching you embarrass yourself, over and over
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#249
Sabrina! If you've got a cite from the New York State Bar that says when a lawyer changes their
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#252
There you go again, spreading false information under the pretext of just innocently seeking
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#255
No--really!! You can resign or retire, rather than be suspended from the practice of law in NY--
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#257
*yawn* ... good night partner in the fight against the smearing of and lying about
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#258
I hate it when you stomp out of the sandbox, Sabrina!! But don't forget to send this thread to GG!!
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#259
More whining from an anonymous blogger. Seems to be jealous of Greenwalds work but
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#161
The content is about Obama and how he is being mistreated. I definitely did focus on the content.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#185
GG is a journalist and no he does a very good job of defending himself. I am posting
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#190
Distorting his honest words is despicable. It is Rovian in its sheer reprehensibility. But it is a
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#193
I knew we would get to this. Thanks for obliging me. I was hoping it would happen sooner
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#197
The term 'ratfucking' is about 40 years old. To think it new indicates a lack of knowledge
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#214
I didn't say the 'word' was new, I said it was new to the anti journalist dialogue.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#217
No, actually, it was the 'lawyer' who didn't understand the standard procedure
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#266
GG's problem is that all six are verifiably true in so far as they're things based on his own words.
Chan790
Jul 2013
#156
Explain what you mean. Your comment is just a reiteration of the smears with no context.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#181
See msanthrope's perfect demonstration of how smears and lies are born, right in this
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#256
This thread went through the looking glass so many times it needs its own BART train
Fumesucker
Jul 2013
#264
You're welcome, myrna. I did say it was public service OP, but could not have predicted how true
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#287
I had a feeling people would be following and I really did want to lead the way to complete exposure
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#293
Just wanted to thank you for your thread which I just saw. It was locked I see, but I do appreciate
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#301
Lol, you hit the nail on the head! That has conjured up a hilarious image for me. Thanks again Myrna
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#294
So we can now quote GG that he admits he was "apathetic and passive" on THE most central
grantcart
Jul 2013
#297
Honesty is always an admirable trait, don't you agree?? He obvioulsy wanted people to
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#298