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In reply to the discussion: 'Frequently Told Lies' about Glenn Greenwald, by Glenn Greenwald. [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)127. The NY State Bar computer correctly informed the public that Greenwald is not practicing law
anymore.
Again, why is he not practicing law? The truth shall set you free!
You're not very good at this kind of propaganda. What Rove does is to take something that is hard to prove right or wrong.
What you are doing is taking something that is easy to prove in his favor. That is a recipe for failure.
I have to say I am overjoyed that you chose to do this here tonight.
Anyone with doubts about how the lies are spread, have received a clear look at how it is done.
Thank you, thank you for this perfect demonstration of what Greenwald explained in the link in the OP.
You have no idea how you have helped him tonight.
But I do!
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Thanks for an example of one of the six lies. You are free to read the correction made by
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#3
Why didn't all those Democrats, Kerry, Clinton et al, know, and why have they never
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#18
And yet you supported for Sec of Defense a Republican who voted for the Iraq War and for
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#31
Again, it is unfair and hypocritical on a very basic level to criticize one person for doing that
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#44
Again, Greenwald was gullible is not an excuse. He supported the Iraq war. n/t
ProSense
Jul 2013
#45
Yes, I opposed the war. Greenwald supported it. His excuse is "hypocritical double standard blather"
ProSense
Jul 2013
#58
You continue to avoid the very obvious fact that Greenwald was a private and unknown
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#262
Correction: Kerry was against the INVASION of Iraq. He voted for IWR, then when inspectors
blm
Jul 2013
#80
chimp, what the hell has gotten into you? Just because you got burned by Edwards doesn't
blm
Jul 2013
#134
REDUNDANT (It's linked in the OP) But thank you for illustrating the point
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#196
Has anyone noticed GG has attempted to smear the current adminstration with events
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#2
I don't watch the Corporate Media anymore. You made a claim, if you can't provide proof
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#9
The proof was on this morning, if you don't watch corporate media than you are not interested in
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#13
Can you prove GG was not on Meet the Press this morning? Prove he was not on the show.
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#17
If that was the topic, I would not question something so easily proven. You otoh, are
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#19
You apparently don't like proof GG lies, can't help you, I gave you proof but you don't have proof
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#30
So you lied?? For what purpose? I don't know or care whether he was on MTP or not.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#33
Then why did you ask for proof? I wonder if you are interested in the truth but then you have to
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#131
"The magistrate judge granted both motions, finding defense counsel's conduct unethical under two
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#7
There it is, right on cue. Thank you for providing exhibit #1 of what Greenwald has
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#10
You are doing what you always do, although it's good to see the lie that he was ever
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#24
Kindly cite, specifically, where I ever claimed he was "sanctioned." He lost the case for his client
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#26
When violate your client's privilege, it's a pretty big deal. Screwing up 26(b)(3), followed by a
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#43
Yes, that would be serious. Fortunately for his client, that was not the case here.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#263
That is exactly what happened here, which is why the court ruled against him and granted the motion
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#269
Yes, he lost one case. Is that a crime now, because if it is there are a whole lot of far worse
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#284
Really? What lies did he tell? I look forward to discussing the content of the linked
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#14
Well, he's depending on his supporters being too ignorant about the law on #6.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#23
Well, he didn't get away with it. Glenn apparently was dumb enough to wiretap--and make transcripts
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#40
Um--the New York Bar thought taping was improper, too. See post 62, referencing Glenn's case.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#72
lol "wiretapping",. he was recording a witness by phone,. not tapping it like the NSA does!
Civilization2
Jul 2013
#78
I know, they are funny, more entertaining than anything on TV. I love this thread.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#237
Lol, are you serious? We know the law, we know the law differs from state to state,
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#28
Ahem---so wiretapping a witness is okay? Because that's not what this court found.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#35
Not just wiretapping a witness--making a transcript of it and being stupid enough to
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#51
Except that is a lie. But don't let that bother you. I notice you haven't taken my invitation
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#52
Taping in NY was improper, too. Here's the NY State Bar Opinion, citing Glenn's case:
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#62
I live in NY and have spent hours in NY courts and this was not just legal it was well
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#63
Okay--so after being shown the NY State Bar Opinion that contradicts you, you say wiretapping
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#67
The NY Bar where Mr. Greenwald's license is suspended? Like I said, Sabrina, your defense of wire-
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#74
Now you really are reaching a new low. Greenwald's license was NEVER suspended, he
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#76
This truly is shameful. What a totally transparent example of how propaganda is applied.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#95
I have no idea why he is 'suspended' as opposed to 'resigned.' If I were winding up a law practice
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#103
You would know if you wanted to know. All you had to was to read the OP linked article.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#109
No--he is not "in good standing." He is "suspended." I am sure he has a very good reason
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#115
He is in good standing, all he has to do is pay the fee if he ever decides to return to
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#117
I'm wading through DU now. And I'm seeing thread after thread about sock puppet hysteria
Number23
Jul 2013
#170
It's the online equivalent of looking for the black helicopters. It's actually pretty funny.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#176
they sound like cultists, worshippers, and apologists to me.... sweet bebe jesuS GG...
dionysus
Jul 2013
#84
"Personas" seem to be new insult. Paid by the NSA, I think. Did you get your check? nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#86
And there it is again, the old 'worship' talking point. I'll tell you what I respect, JOURNALISM
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#112
Is the NY State Bar computer in on the conspiracy to smear Mr. Greenwald? nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#116
The NY State Bar computer correctly informed the public that Greenwald is not practicing law
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#127
Attorneys who are suspended are not allowed to practice law in NY State. If this was voluntary
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#136
Again, thanks for this demonstration of how lies and smears are made. But once again,
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#147
No, definitely not the funniest thing I've ever written. I've written some hilarious stuff. You
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#155
I cannot wait for you tell Glenn Greenwald how the NY State Bar computer is smearing him
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#158
Why would I do that? He knows what the Bar computer does when someone voluntarily
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#167
Well I'm sorry, but I don't believe any attorney would not know that this is standard
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#177
Um no--it's not standard practice in NY State or anywhere else. In NY State, lawyers who don't
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#184
Uh yes, it is. As I said, any attorney would know this is standard for the Bar Assoc. to do.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#187
By making wild accusations that people are using British tabloids when they are not?
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#205
Don't change the subject, you are spreading disinfo to smear a journalist who is doing his job
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#208
I am not the one who brought up British Tabloids...and doesn't Greenwald write for one, anyway?
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#212
Well, doesn't Greenwald write for The Guardian? I'm not the one who brought up
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#272
I agree...which is why I have no idea why Sabrina would bring up British Tabloids in the
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#276
You're welcome, it is a bit exhausting, but it was worth it to see how it is done.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#203
Sabrina, have you retracted your wild accusation that I was using a British tabloid? nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#206
Of course, which you know already. Still trying to distract from the fact that you just spent
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#209
No, I don't answer your questions anymore. I still speak with you because you are useful.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#211
The only reason I speak with you is because you are very useful as you were tonight,
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#216
You didn't answer my question about citing your claim that his suspension was over fees...
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#220
Lol, when losing the battle, try going on the offensive. Lawyer tactic? Possibly or just
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#223
Still can't cite it, Sabrina? Where's the cite that Glenn is suspended because he didn't pay fees?nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#230
The NYDaily Record is a legal newspaper, not a British tabloid rag. If you are a court reporter in
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#200
Yes, my one mistake throughout this very revealing subthread. Thanks for your assistance
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#207
I will tell you what I tell every single DUer who challenges whether or not I am an attorney....
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#210
I really don't care what you are. But no attorney would make the false claims you made and
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#213
How easily you back down, Sabrina. Now, I've asked you to cite Mr. Greenwald's claim that his
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#218
Of course you cannot cite the claim that Mr. Greenwald is suspended over fees, can you? nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#222
I'm asking you to show me where Mr. Greenwald says the answer....now, I get that you
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#235
Still don't know the standard procedures of the NY State Bar Association.n/t
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#238
Again--can you cite your claim that Mr. Greenwald is claiming that his suspension is over fees?
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#239
Still can't find it in the OP, lol! It's not working, the game. It doesn't distract from
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#242
Hey--if you see it in the OP, why not just copy it and show it? And if you've got a cite
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#243
Well, don't be coy Sabrina! If you've got a part in your OP where Glenn explains why his license is
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#250
I admit I have encouraged you to demonstrate how little you know about the law.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#251
Which law would that be? Could you cite the law I am apparently in ignorance of? nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#253
Thank you---and I think he is not telling the truth. This explanation makes no sense---
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#270
Those who don't feel the need to pay for something they are not using and don't intend to use again.
unapatriciated
Jul 2013
#274
Then there are legal options that do not violate the ethical code one has sworn to.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#277
There is one very good reason, to try to distract and use up time and energy.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#280
I'm Simply Unworthy And Ill Equipped To Counter The Brilliance of Your nth Dimensional
Skraxx
Jul 2013
#317
Amazing how little you know about the NY State Bar Assoc. and the standard procedures that
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#282
Just to explain why I refused to comply with the 'request' for a link. I knew the game that was
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#333
Lol, perfect, exactly what I knew you would do if I had entertained your pretense that you
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#332
They may be how your license operates--it is not how a law license operates.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#323
Thank you so much for verifying what most people, especially attorneys or other license holders in
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#334
Your 'question' was completely unwarranted. I do not know Greenwald other than by his
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#81
So you have no proof of anything you are speculating about. Here on DU we generally
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#120
Oh there are shills here. No doubt about that. And while most of us know who they most
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#129
You can't 'snark' period. Don't give up your day job, unlike Greenwald, who was able to
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#143
No, you missed it, but I already stated upthread somewhere, that i am the Queen of France.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#335
And you gotta love the poster who joined in 2008 attempting to "school" the poster who joined
Number23
Jul 2013
#165
Never answer its questions. Never look at its links..and watch it skate in circles.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#311
Where was the 'actual attorney'? I saw a person who claims to be an attorney display a stunning
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#336
Do you know how it was "resolved?" Greenwald had to turn over the tapes and transcripts after
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#70
I first read and respected Greenwald as one of the most cogent, effective and vigorous critics
enough
Jul 2013
#36
Thank you for your comment. Exactly how a majority of people feel about those who
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#39
He certainly has scared the living daylights out of someone or someones for them to struggle
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#99
Thanks for posting this. Greenwald's FTL only reinforces how low the opposition has sunk
Catherina
Jul 2013
#42
It shows how hard the opposition researchers worked to try to discredit him, and still
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#47
I see you didn't read the OP. Thanks for providing an exhibit of what the OP .
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#53
No, what's cult-like is taking whatever he says as truth just because he says it.
Galraedia
Jul 2013
#89
DU has the dubious distinction of being the main source of spreading one of those lies
Catherina
Jul 2013
#64
How shameful, for DU. It's not like anyone takes this small contingency seriously here
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#66
Yes, and that is unfair representation of DU's opinion of all of this. But I guess
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#75
He's not the issue when it comes to the NSA surveillance program, but when we got to such
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#88
Lol, you can say that again! I have not had this fun in a long time. The gang's all here!
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#231
No, wish I did. Maybe you could explain, I am ashamed to admit to not having been a Trekkie.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#96
The hate for Glenn is up to 11 today because he's releasing another article that will put
neverforget
Jul 2013
#94
Yes, but it won't work, the more they attack journalists, the worse they look and the more
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#100
'You guys'. Link to a post of mine that ever mentioned 'hero worship'. Thanks, I'll wait.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#113
You are not making much sense here tonight. Breitbart was the liar. And who exactly do
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#124
As I said, and I will repeat it just for you, 'you are not making much sense here tonight'.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#135
Bravo! You deserve the internet equivalent of a Pulitzer for this thread and
HardTimes99
Jul 2013
#125
Lol, thank you! Not sure about a Pulitzer, but the thread sure has helped to prove the whole
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#140
Lol, who is this person who thinks he CAN attack someone and not expect a response??
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#144
No, I wouldn't. I dealt very succinctly with the 'content'. An unknown blogger was linked to
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#153
Do I? Thanks for your concern, but I was of the opinion that you were pretty upset.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#164
Was it? Well, you may be right but this isn't about ME. This is about the attacks on Journalists
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#175
A prominent news paper doesn't agree with you. But there you go again, focusing on
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#182
To repeat your own question to me a few posts up, 'can't you use your own words
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#189
Glen clearly states he was wrong on some things- which doesn't automatically mean he is
Swagman
Jul 2013
#325
Sabrina is going to send this whole thread to Glenn, per her threats upthread. Are you scared yet?nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#160
OMFG.....we need an app for that on DU!!! It should go straight to Glen! Oh--and in other news,
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#186
I love this sub thread. Amazing to watch. I wouldn't bore GG with such childishness. But
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#240
Where's the cite that Glenn is suspended because he didn't pay fees? When you send this thread
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#241
Unfortunately for the smear campaign, the only one who can't find it is YOU!
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#244
If you've got the cite, why not just copy and paste it? Don't be coy! And when you send this off
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#246
If I cared I would do so. I'm much happier watching you embarrass yourself, over and over
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#249
Sabrina! If you've got a cite from the New York State Bar that says when a lawyer changes their
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#252
There you go again, spreading false information under the pretext of just innocently seeking
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#255
No--really!! You can resign or retire, rather than be suspended from the practice of law in NY--
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#257
*yawn* ... good night partner in the fight against the smearing of and lying about
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#258
I hate it when you stomp out of the sandbox, Sabrina!! But don't forget to send this thread to GG!!
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#259
More whining from an anonymous blogger. Seems to be jealous of Greenwalds work but
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#161
The content is about Obama and how he is being mistreated. I definitely did focus on the content.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#185
GG is a journalist and no he does a very good job of defending himself. I am posting
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#190
Distorting his honest words is despicable. It is Rovian in its sheer reprehensibility. But it is a
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#193
I knew we would get to this. Thanks for obliging me. I was hoping it would happen sooner
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#197
The term 'ratfucking' is about 40 years old. To think it new indicates a lack of knowledge
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#214
I didn't say the 'word' was new, I said it was new to the anti journalist dialogue.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#217
No, actually, it was the 'lawyer' who didn't understand the standard procedure
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#266
GG's problem is that all six are verifiably true in so far as they're things based on his own words.
Chan790
Jul 2013
#156
Explain what you mean. Your comment is just a reiteration of the smears with no context.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#181
See msanthrope's perfect demonstration of how smears and lies are born, right in this
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#256
This thread went through the looking glass so many times it needs its own BART train
Fumesucker
Jul 2013
#264
You're welcome, myrna. I did say it was public service OP, but could not have predicted how true
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#287
I had a feeling people would be following and I really did want to lead the way to complete exposure
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#293
Just wanted to thank you for your thread which I just saw. It was locked I see, but I do appreciate
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#301
Lol, you hit the nail on the head! That has conjured up a hilarious image for me. Thanks again Myrna
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#294
So we can now quote GG that he admits he was "apathetic and passive" on THE most central
grantcart
Jul 2013
#297
Honesty is always an admirable trait, don't you agree?? He obvioulsy wanted people to
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#298