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branford

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67. The Florida Bar Associate Cannot Indict Anyone
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 01:42 AM
Jul 2013

The Florida Bar Association only has jurisdiction over the professional conduct of lawyers in Florida. As with any professional disciplinary body, they will investigate complaints, and if substantial evidence is found that an attorney has breached the Florida Rules of Professional Conduct, they will conduct a disciplinary hearing. If the complaint is sustained, the most severe sanction that they may impose is the disbarment of the attorney, subject to appeal. The entire process is considered a civil action, not criminal. While disbarment is usually the result of a criminal conviction, disbarment itself is neither a criminal conviction nor conclusive evidence of criminal conduct.

If the Florida Bar Association discovers what they believe to be criminal conduct by a Florida attorney, they will turn over the evidence to the local district or state attorney for state crimes, or the local United States Attorney for federal crimes. The decision to seek a criminal indictment is solely within the discretion of the district, state or US attorney. Again, the Florida Bar Association has no criminal charging authority or jurisdiction.

The RICO complaint you reference is not a criminal matter. The RICO statute provides for both civil and criminal remedies. For your reference, in Florida, unless you see the People of the State of Florida or the United States as a party, the matter is only civil in nature. The docket number also indicates whether a matter is civil or criminal.

Also note that a complaint, regardless of whether it is civil or criminal, does NOT constitute evidence in any federal, state or local jurisdiction in the United States. It is simply a series of allegations that a civil plaintiff or the State, if criminal, seeks to prove through admissible evidence at trial. Filing a complaint is a very long way, legally, from the imposition of civil or criminal liability or penalties. Similarly, newspaper editorials and other opinions, no matter how prominent the author, are not considered evidence.



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de jure, no; de facto, yes. nt delrem Jul 2013 #1
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First answer is the correct answer. nt means no text, there's nothing in the body of the reply. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #18
nt or n/t = "no text". nt heh delrem Jul 2013 #20
What does 'nt heh' mean? :) - nt (heh :) HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #73
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No, he not going to be arrested. former9thward Jul 2013 #19
I don't think so, I think so, and there's no fucking way tularetom Jul 2013 #3
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I mean no matter WTF he's guilty of, THIS administration won't do squat about it tularetom Jul 2013 #12
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perhaps he'll partake in some med maryjane elehhhhna Jul 2013 #48
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I guess that's what I mean tularetom Jul 2013 #15
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POTUS like any other LEO had limited personal immunity Recursion Jul 2013 #4
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I was taking about what he did while President Recursion Jul 2013 #8
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Well, he's rich and famous Recursion Jul 2013 #11
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G H W Bush is the only ex-President, who reads the daily briefings iemitsu Jul 2013 #51
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You have my compassion and goodwill in your fight against the powerful Bush Crime Family. iemitsu Jul 2013 #53
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Yep, I am for the "equal justice for all" policy that we so often iemitsu Jul 2013 #60
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Sounds like they have really given you the run-a-round. iemitsu Jul 2013 #66
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Thanks for the link to the evidence. iemitsu Jul 2013 #77
when the director of the cia becomes president, it can't be good spanone Jul 2013 #68
You got that one right, iemitsu Jul 2013 #70
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It is very unlikely that a former president of the USA would ever face criminal prosecution. branford Jul 2013 #21
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I'm not quite sure what you're trying to state. branford Jul 2013 #31
As long as he was not given a blanket pardon for acts in office, yes to both. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #23
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After Democrats took control of the House in 2006, talk about impeachment and investigations shrunk Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #26
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I think the "anyone" is an enormous overreach. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #27
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Probably got a secret pardon already elehhhhna Jul 2013 #50
Bill Clinton could not give Bush a pardon because he was not in office Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #56
I think there is a reluctance to do this for fear we'll end up being a country pnwmom Jul 2013 #28
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You don't think we'd have bogus prosecutions? pnwmom Jul 2013 #37
I very much agree. branford Jul 2013 #32
Welcome to DU, branford! n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #35
Thank you. branford Jul 2013 #40
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I am in no way stating that politicians are immune to criminal prosecution. branford Jul 2013 #39
GWB and Cheney should be investigated, indicted and tried for war crimes and HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #75
You may be right. branford Jul 2013 #78
Thank you for your balanced and civil tone. With reference to your second paragraph, the HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #79
You raise many substantive and relevant points. branford Jul 2013 #80
A magisterial response to my late-night fantasy. As perhaps a historical HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #81
Interesting. branford Jul 2013 #82
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You Nixon reference fails to address the OP or our discussion. branford Jul 2013 #41
1) There is a 5-year statute of limitations. 2) He has and has had de facto immunity from Obama. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #33
I've asked this before and I'll ask again... brooklynite Jul 2013 #34
You say that "no elected official" called for Bush's impeachment? Do you remember this guy? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #42
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Huh???? branford Jul 2013 #45
I stand corrected --- and you've made my point brooklynite Jul 2013 #47
Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL) was one. It would be necessary to use Google to find others. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #49
Thank you for remembering this. nt LWolf Jul 2013 #57
Amen. Thank you. branford Jul 2013 #43
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I checked out your blog rusty fender Jul 2013 #55
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I hear you rusty fender Jul 2013 #62
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The Florida Bar Associate Cannot Indict Anyone branford Jul 2013 #67
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