'Frequently Told Lies' about Glenn Greenwald, by Glenn Greenwald.

[sabrina 1]

262. You continue to avoid the very obvious fact that Greenwald was a private and unknown

citizen at the time. There is no shame at all in believing your government would not do something so heinous as to lead the country into war on false pretenses.

He was no doubt influenced, as many people were, by the fact that Congress gave Bush BI-PARTISAN support for the egregious crime.

You fault a private citizen with no access to the information Clinton eg, had but refused to check out because she ACTUALLY did support the war as we now know.

And even when it was public knowledge that there were never any WMDs, that we were lied to, she never once addressed these very disturbing issues.

It's difficult to read your comments on this and believe that your assignment of blame could be so off the wall in terms of who should be shamed for their support.

But keep bringing this up, it reminds me of the sheer anger I felt on the night of that awful vote, when right after Sen. Byrd's incredible speech opposing the war, Hillary stood up, and I, apparently as naive as Greenwald back then, waited for her expected rejection of the lies.

Instead, I was in shock when I realized she was supporting it. And angry, we needed ever vote to stop Bush.

And then, worse was to come that night. I saw Dem after Dem support an obvious lie.

I KNEW IT WAS A LIE, so why didn't didn't our brilliant elected leaders, because if they are at least as smart as you and I, they surely too knew Bush et al were lying.

Were they aware of the lies and voted for it anyhow, hard to express what this says about them if true, or were they naive, like Greenwald and the other 70% of the population, many of them Dems, influenced no doubt by the Dems who voted for it? Which is worse, elected officials knowingly voting for a lie, are so naive they believed the biggest liar in the country?

Your position on this is shameful, to let off the hook those WHOSE JOB IT WAS to NOT fall for lies about war, while attempting, a feeble attempt and not many are buying, to attach some shame on a private citizen who could not believe that Democrats and Republicans would support a criminal lie.

I would drop this if I were you. I wish I had not just remembered the anger I felt towards those Dems that night after being so certain they would do the right thing and stop Bush. I would prefer not to remember that, it was a dark day in this country.

But each time you bring this up, I and others will remind people of those who should really be shamed for their votes that night.

Maybe take that back, maybe it's a good thing to remind us. Those Dems have never had the courage to do what Greenwald did, admit that they were wrong, and then work to try to make up for it, by NOT voting for the funding anymore.