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23. Yes, being in elected office makes them much less responsible for things

Mon Jul 29, 2013, 08:51 AM

Jul 2013

Typical American principle of reverse responsibility, if you have vast power you can do nothing wrong and if you do happen to do something wrong no one will be so gauche as to mention it, if you have no power everything you do is wrong and must be punished to the full extent of the law and maybe a bit more just to be sure.

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unlike sniveling cowardly Greenwald - Biden and Clinton stand by their Iraq War and Patriot Act [View all] Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 OP

Yeah, these true peoples have the courage of their misguided convictions to stand tall on them usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #1

if people going changing their minds just because they learned something or looked at something Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #3

Madness, that's what! Union Scribe Jul 2013 #5

He wrote a book noise Jul 2013 #2

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #4

Please warn of graphic images n/t hootinholler Jul 2013 #35

GOD DAMN IT! Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #36

you know in much of the world these are the scenes shown on the prime time nightly news Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #39

That blood was spilled in our name Generic Other Jul 2013 #43

K&R -- Brilliant. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #6

It is....nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #7

The Character Assassination Continues cantbeserious Jul 2013 #8

So shredding the constitution and standing by it, along with a fake war is a good thing? Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #9

It's a test of one's mettle. (spelling corrected) Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #12

Ahhh, brilliant sarcasm. I get it Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #13

not metal. mettle. eilen Jul 2013 #14

I stand corrected - (on the spelling) Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #15

Well, there WAS a good film about a piano ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2013 #16

well I think would have preferred it to "The Piano" Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #17

Obama can never, ever do any wrong. Got it. Even the Bush-sourced "patriot act" is good. Check. Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #10

it is getting harder and harder to tell these days Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #18

I thought they just agreed with Bush's war. But I see your point, admitting you were so sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #11

knr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #19

Biden and Clinton were elected to an office treestar Jul 2013 #20

Yes, being in elected office makes them much less responsible for things Fumesucker Jul 2013 #23

Nonsensical distinction whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #37

And they still accomplish more on the toilet than GG will AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #21

So in your opinion the measure of a man is how much he shits? bowens43 Jul 2013 #52

"I had not abandoned my trust in the Bush administration." ProSense Jul 2013 #22

Greenwald apologized. He was not an elected official who voted for the war. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #25

+! nt snappyturtle Jul 2013 #26

Lets not forget WHY they voted for it. One, they were lied to by JaneyVee Jul 2013 #28

Which is likely why Greenwald supported it (at first) whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #40

Lied to?! Puhleeze Carolina Jul 2013 #44

How can they not see the incredible hypocrisy and stupidity of attacking Greenwald on this? whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #38

Oh Greenwald changed his mind, did he? LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #33

Oh, SNAP! Efilroft Sul Jul 2013 #42

Wow. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #47

Your hypocrisy is that you support other war supporters and cheerleaders and yes voters Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #49

knr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #24

False. See video below: JaneyVee Jul 2013 #27

Role Call vote on Iraq War Resoltion - Delaware Joseph Biden (D): Yes Thomas Carper (D): Yes Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #29

Sure he voted for it, under false pretenses. The administration said JaneyVee Jul 2013 #30

does he agree or disagree with John Kerry that he would have voted for it anyway? Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #31

Then he was inexcusably STUPID Carolina Jul 2013 #41

And yet 23 Senators with the same case presented to them voted NO. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #45

Exactomundo. closeupready Jul 2013 #48

You didn't even need to assume WMDs to conclude that, btw. joshcryer Jul 2013 #62

Scott Ritter, Robert Fisk, Hans Blix, and suicided David Kelly dispute that. joshcryer Jul 2013 #60

Except that they WERE wrong. nt LWolf Jul 2013 #32

that's not excuse and no reason to admit it.. Do we want to be led by wimps who admit they Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #58

Maybe. LWolf Jul 2013 #65

Really? snappyturtle Jul 2013 #34

OMG, did the Symbionese Liberation Army get to you, too? closeupready Jul 2013 #46

no, they all over the place Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #50

So basically you believe that bowens43 Jul 2013 #51

that's what real men of principle would do. Did Stalin ever admit he was wrong? Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #57

I loved this thread. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #53

thank you , I appreciate that Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #54

You know you've lost the high ground in a debate... randome Jul 2013 #55

. You know you've lost the high ground in a debate... Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #56

Are you ignoring Glen Greenwalds message (NSA surveillance) AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #61

some people sometime try to use irony to make their point Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Jul 2013 #59

Clinton's weasely floor speech on the Iraq War Resolution: joshcryer Jul 2013 #64

An honest person admits when they are wrong. alarimer Jul 2013 #66

I gave you a rec for style points GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #67

Of course, being of the privileged class, they didn't risk facing rendition or other such things. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #68