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28. Only a small part of this article mentions Putin, specifically...

Mon Jul 29, 2013, 01:35 PM

Jul 2013

and in no case does McGovern portray him as acting out of any motive other than expediency.

The rest of the article is about the Messrs Obama and Holder dissembling about torture (its definition, and whether we do it ourselves or contract it out) and their pretensions to having a record on human rights such that any country in their right mind would want to emulate it.

Yet, most of those commenting on the article have been at pains to mention only that Putin is a vicious homophobe and a murderous tyrant. As if that needed to be said.

So, what do we hear about Holder and Obama's massive screw-up?

*crickets*

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Wow! Ray McGovern roasts the Obama Administration, but good!... [View all] truth2power Jul 2013 OP

I think McGovern has painted an accurate picture of snappyturtle Jul 2013 #1

McGovern almost always does so. maddiemom Jul 2013 #8

Anyone remember the cartoon "Inspector Gadget"? morningfog Jul 2013 #2

Wow, what a worthless piece of "analysis" BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #3

Agreed. Trying to claim Russia has the moral highground at a time where they are ratcheting up the stevenleser Jul 2013 #4

Then there's Bolotnaya Square, Pussy Riot, Navalny BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #5

No need to wonder... stevenleser Jul 2013 #6

On LGBT issues neither nation has any 'moral highground' unless we pretend they are the only Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #19

seriously? there are scores and scores of countries cali Jul 2013 #20

Right? Get the OP & Co. a towel JNelson6563 Jul 2013 #21

Oh, Geez! I just can't help myself on this one... truth2power Jul 2013 #23

Only to the partisans in their bubble usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #9

In this particular political match, this is a win for Putin. progressoid Jul 2013 #10

That's a more reasonable POV BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #15

A POV never to be heard in the MSM. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #26

No. What McGovern is actually saying truth2power Jul 2013 #25

Wow-I just got this vision of "USSR-1" Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #7

I thought Holder promised not to kill Snowden. JEB Jul 2013 #11

Wow, that didn't take long. blackspade Jul 2013 #12

People throw themselves under the bus. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #13

A swing and a miss.... blackspade Jul 2013 #14

Yep. Throw everything except the fact of the hoovering under the bus. Then ignore or deny the spying RC Jul 2013 #17

In the mad dash to make Snowden smell more pleasant than is real... Sheepshank Jul 2013 #16

Good point. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #24

Instead of making assumptions about someone of whom you know nothing-- truebluegreen Jul 2013 #33

Nothing I've read makes me want to change my mind in this case. Sheepshank Jul 2013 #41

What have you read? truebluegreen Jul 2013 #42

McGovern = another hero; hope he's right. snot Jul 2013 #18

I'm sure he is Catherina Jul 2013 #22

Only a small part of this article mentions Putin, specifically... truth2power Jul 2013 #28

I know lol. Catherina Jul 2013 #29

Ray McGovern is the best! nt Peregrine Took Jul 2013 #27

The WORLD is laughing and ridiculing the US "Keystone Cops" efforts, bvar22 Jul 2013 #30

K&R forestpath Jul 2013 #31

Well, pouting and stamping their feet work so well for Republicans truebluegreen Jul 2013 #32

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Press Gaggle by Press Secretary Jay Carney aboard Air Force One en route to Galesburg, IL, 7/24/13 struggle4progress Jul 2013 #39

ray mcgovern starts out with a fucking lie and goes downhill from there. Cha Jul 2013 #44

You'd think that when the White House says, every frickin day, "The Prez is goin t'Russia for G20" struggle4progress Jul 2013 #45

Certainly not fucking ray mcgovern.. but, that's not how he Cha Jul 2013 #46

Nice! Safetykitten Jul 2013 #40

What would he prefer, dropping bombs? JaneyVee Jul 2013 #43