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In reply to the discussion: Brutal Toon in the NYT: Greetings from flyover country [View all]jtuck004
(15,882 posts)said that it was about people doing worse, on the front page of DU all day. Here's a hint - it had the word "poverty" in it, easily distinguishable by a smart fella like you from posts about Syria or humorous posts about cats. It was even in two different columns, and is there again today.
I laughed because I said you were ignoring facts, and your response was something to the effect of "ignoring what", as if you were not paying attention. Again.
I thought that was funny.
Yet your first retort said "the vast majority of Americans are no worse off, if not better off,". That is demonstrably untrue, yet there didn't even seem to be the slightest effort to go look at the front page, or that article. It's not like it's the only article of it's kind out there, with substantial sources that provide trustworthy data. Or one could just look around, and wonder why, if we are doing better, whole cities are filing bankruptcy, half of all graduates aren't getting jobs, home ownership has declined to the level of last seen in 1997 while our population has increased dramatically since that year, and our U6 unemployment rate went from 13.8 to 14.3 in a month partly because so many people have no place to even apply, much less work, partly because we are replacing full-time jobs with part-time McJobs, according to the BLS reports. I talk to a lot of people in my circles, and even the least political and astute see it, yet here you are, a smart fella, and you say it isn't happening, or don't already know.
I concluded that the reply was similar to a previous reply from you to me, so I lost interest. Some may enjoy that sort of thing, but, to me, it's an inflexible position that's not very interesting or helpful. After all. once someone has heard it, what's the point in hearing it again? It's like a scratched record, playing the same note again, and again, and again.
It's because of that I don't reply to much that you post. I made an exception because of that comment about him needing to be a dictator. He put himself in this box with his own decisions, a position he didn't need to be in, and rather than fix it I hear a lot of excuses and finger-pointing wherein Democrats seem to suggest that Obama can't stand up for himself, that he is unable to bear responsibility for his decisions, that everything happens which is good is his, and everything bad is someone else. That sort of thing, to me, makes someone sound as capable as a bowl of jelly. I think their position is disrespectful. It also keeps things from getting fixed.
I think he is probably better than that. Some may think he isn't and need to be "protected", much like some people (Larry Summers) think women aren't capable of leadership positions at Universities. At least that's what he said when he spoke at Harvard..
Regardless, I got about the response I expected, (figures), and I don't wish to hear the same old stuff again. Don't feel ignored or slighted, please. You can rest assured I heard it the last time.
cya.