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1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
90. Well ...
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 11:35 PM
Jul 2013
No free links, sorry, These papers are written by many members of the group above who make their living selling them to people for whom a few thousand dollars a year to get good information is just the cost of doing business. See the above references and you will find some sources. How you access them is up to you.


at least point me to a source. I am familiar with both Stiglitz and Roubini ... though I am somewhat suspect of Roubini, as he is making a living shorting the US economy, while sells investment advice, advising that his clients short the US economy. I don't know what Stiglitz is advising his clients to do.

We did cover the deposits, so yes, I am sure. (BTW why do you think the insured limit was raised from $100K to $250K?)


But that was WITH the bail-out ... so no banks failed. Had the banks been allowed to fail, the damage to the economy would not have been because folks lost their savings.

Finally, if you're not aware of what happened or don't understand the consequences of it, you really need to learn a lot more about macroeconomics. In brief, nothing on earth was moving, no thing. Container ships were simply holding station wherever they happened to be. The loading docks were full, warehouses full of perishables rotted, no iPads were leaving China and no cerium or neodymium was being mined to make more. The entire global economic machine stopped.


While I admit I know nothing about "nothing on earth was moving, no thing. Container ships were simply holding station wherever they happened to be. The loading docks were full, warehouses full of perishables rotted, no iPads were leaving China and no cerium or neodymium was being mined to make more. The entire global economic machine stopped", my undergrad degree in Economic suggest I have a nodding aquaintence with macro-economics. So if you would be so kind as to post a link to this stoppage, I will be further informed.

With that in mind, what do you imagine would be made worse if Lehman or Merrill or (dare we hope) Goldman didn't exist today? They contributed nothing (except boatloads of campaign cash, of course) and their absence wouldn't hurt anyone you know (probably).


If you think the bail-out can be boiled down to that ... well ... there's not a lot of room to discuss this further.

One of the things we have to face up to, if we are to ever have any hope of making the world better for the rest of us, is that practically nothing is done to preserve or benefit us "useless eaters". The world is run by sociopaths and their boot-licking sycophants for their own purposes and you and I don't rate any consideration.


Now here, we agree ... and like with all addictions, detox is best a step by step, gradual process rather than the cold turkey that sends the addict into all sorts of pain.

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K&R 99Forever Jul 2013 #1
Sad, but true Sherman A1 Jul 2013 #2
So what ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #3
Well, we're clearly a police state... ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2013 #6
Funny how that works though. zeemike Jul 2013 #8
+1 Phlem Jul 2013 #12
GOP majorities. How hard is that to comprehend Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #14
And yet the GOP minority rules the senate. zeemike Jul 2013 #16
+100 nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #19
When it came to the war machine, the Repubs were never in the minority Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #21
I select ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #27
The Dems had the majority up until 2002 in the Senate fujiyama Jul 2013 #22
We know how Bush did it ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #26
Well I suggest to you that they do zeemike Jul 2013 #32
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #36
Well there is only one way to deal with that zeemike Jul 2013 #39
I disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #66
point number 2 arely staircase Jul 2013 #77
my point exactly. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #79
He also got his pals in the mideast to fly airliners into our tallest buildings KansDem Jul 2013 #29
Maybe that's because Democrats in the bush years EC Jul 2013 #42
Ask Bush how he did it? Maybe he already did. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #59
yeah there's this thing about not becoming your enemy or something pasto76 Jul 2013 #60
I don't think Phlem Jul 2013 #15
I heaven05 Jul 2013 #52
Im your neighbor in that community pasto76 Jul 2013 #61
Police states are more sophisticated sulphurdunn Jul 2013 #65
Yeah, I thought the bully pulpit was the solution? treestar Jul 2013 #46
How long a list would convince you? Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #53
I would settle ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #69
Only one? Get guarantees and demand specific performance from the TBTF investment houses Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #82
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #85
Well you only asked for one, so we're already there. Now, to the crux of this biscuit. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #86
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #87
Yes, and I along with a whole lot of people with two things in common agree. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #88
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #90
You have a degree in economics but never heard anything about the consequences Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #96
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #97
Funny, I agree with you. Sort of. He might have to be a dictator now. But it didn't jtuck004 Jul 2013 #63
And ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #70
I think such a viewpoint ignores the documented reality of tens of millions of jtuck004 Jul 2013 #71
Ignores what? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #72
Good one. LOL. n/t jtuck004 Jul 2013 #73
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #74
Sometimes people can appear deliberately obtuse. I guess that's their angle. jtuck004 Jul 2013 #75
And other times ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #78
My other post pointed to an article that said people are worse off. It spent the whole day on the jtuck004 Jul 2013 #80
So, let me see if I have this correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #84
You're a smart fella, and I am guessing your clicky-finger isn't broken. I jtuck004 Jul 2013 #89
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K&R midnight Jul 2013 #4
Praise be to Cheeto Boehner! BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #5
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Stupid Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #9
Yup BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #11
Oh ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #30
They want BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #34
That's rich! Good post. juajen Jul 2013 #41
+1 treestar Jul 2013 #50
He's four and a half years too late for the bully pulpit. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2013 #92
So what does he do now? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #94
It's too late. Republicans have him by the nuts. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2013 #95
K&R forestpath Jul 2013 #10
Wow. Why doesn't Obama wave his magic wand? Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #13
Detroit built the Great American Middle Class. Octafish Jul 2013 #17
So did the rest of us treestar Jul 2013 #49
. Union Scribe Jul 2013 #91
That's really dumb. Zoeisright Jul 2013 #18
It is truly stunning that a person who will surely protest of being among the best bluestate10 Jul 2013 #20
Question for you n2doc? sheshe2 Jul 2013 #23
I don't do binary thinking n2doc Jul 2013 #33
"What HAS Obama done to help Detroit?" BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #35
Let's see...when Obama was campaigning LAST YEAR n2doc Jul 2013 #40
I don't think Obama had much EC Jul 2013 #48
Of COURSE IT IS OBAMA'S FAULT!!!1111!!!111!1! HE IS THE ANTI-CHRIST!!!111!1!!!! BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #57
WTF is this about "way after"? BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #56
In 1975, President Gerald Ford extended a multi-billion dollar loan package to HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #81
kr HiPointDem Jul 2013 #24
Kicked & Recommended In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #25
some Op's are too stupid to respond to..... chillfactor Jul 2013 #28
And some responders are too lame... 99Forever Jul 2013 #31
And ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #37
It's not a "random post on an anonymous message board..." RevStPatrick Jul 2013 #43
I was referring to the post ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #67
Careful, or he might yell in your ear so loudly that you'll go deaf. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #45
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #68
Ow. truebluegreen Jul 2013 #38
Great political cartoon. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #44
So the President is supposed to create a perfect world? treestar Jul 2013 #47
So Obama caused the problems in Detroit? devilgrrl Jul 2013 #51
The House of Representatives, on the other hand, is actively making things worse. another_liberal Jul 2013 #54
Maybe it would help if Obama would not sign any more let's-send-jobs-to-foreign-countries free-trade AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #55
Yeah that will fix everything JEB Jul 2013 #58
I agree that the President did not cause Detroit's problems. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #62
This 'cartoon' is pure freeper crap. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #64
I am surprised the NYT is even aware Detroit exists BlueStreak Jul 2013 #76
The non-defense mounted here is just fucking hilarious. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #83
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