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In reply to the discussion: Brutal Toon in the NYT: Greetings from flyover country [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)93. Okay ...
So you want me to research your claim? Gotcha.
Yet your first retort said "the vast majority of Americans are no worse off, if not better off,". That is demonstrably untrue, yet there didn't even seem to be the slightest effort to go look at the front page, or that article.
You do realize the front page changes hourly, right? So rather than point me to what you claim, you want me to hunt and peck and hope that I find the article that you are referring to? Gotcha!
Yet your first retort said "the vast majority of Americans are no worse off, if not better off,". That is demonstrably untrue, yet there didn't even seem to be the slightest effort to go look at the front page, or that article. It's not like it's the only article of it's kind out there, with substantial sources that provide trustworthy data. Or one could just look around, and wonder why, if we are doing better, whole cities are filing bankruptcy, half of all graduates aren't getting jobs, home ownership has declined to the level of last seen in 1997 while our population has increased dramatically since that year, and our U6 unemployment rate went from 13.8 to 14.3 in a month partly because so many people have no place to even apply, much less work, partly because we are replacing full-time jobs with part-time McJobs, according to the BLS reports. I talk to a lot of people in my circles, and even the least political and astute see it, yet here you are, a smart fella, and you say it isn't happening, or don't already know.
I stand by that claim, as reported by Krugman and others. I did not say all are doing better, I said: "the vast majority of Americans are no worse off, if not better off" and that is what economists have asserted. Absent information to the contrary, that refutes Krugman's claims ... I'm gonna go with the Nobel Prize winner, as opposed to your circle of friends.
I concluded that the reply was similar to a previous reply from you to me, so I lost interest. Some may enjoy that sort of thing, but, to me, it's an inflexible position that's not very interesting or helpful. After all. once someone has heard it, what's the point in hearing it again? It's like a scratched record, playing the same note again, and again, and again.
So you lose interest in someone asking you to support your argument ... because the support for your argument was on the ever changing front page of DU? Gotcha!
It's because of that I don't reply to much that you post. I made an exception because of that comment about him needing to be a dictator. He put himself in this box with his own decisions, a position he didn't need to be in, and rather than fix it I hear a lot of excuses and finger-pointing wherein Democrats seem to suggest that Obama can't stand up for himself, that he is unable to bear responsibility for his decisions, that everything happens which is good is his, and everything bad is someone else. That sort of thing, to me, makes someone sound as capable as a bowl of jelly. I think their position is disrespectful. It also keeps things from getting fixed.
So when are YOU gonna run for office ... The country can certainly use your expertise and legislative prowess.
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He also got his pals in the mideast to fly airliners into our tallest buildings
KansDem
Jul 2013
#29
Only one? Get guarantees and demand specific performance from the TBTF investment houses
Egalitarian Thug
Jul 2013
#82
Well you only asked for one, so we're already there. Now, to the crux of this biscuit.
Egalitarian Thug
Jul 2013
#86
Yes, and I along with a whole lot of people with two things in common agree.
Egalitarian Thug
Jul 2013
#88
You have a degree in economics but never heard anything about the consequences
Egalitarian Thug
Jul 2013
#96
Funny, I agree with you. Sort of. He might have to be a dictator now. But it didn't
jtuck004
Jul 2013
#63
I think such a viewpoint ignores the documented reality of tens of millions of
jtuck004
Jul 2013
#71
My other post pointed to an article that said people are worse off. It spent the whole day on the
jtuck004
Jul 2013
#80
It is truly stunning that a person who will surely protest of being among the best
bluestate10
Jul 2013
#20
Of COURSE IT IS OBAMA'S FAULT!!!1111!!!111!1! HE IS THE ANTI-CHRIST!!!111!1!!!!
BumRushDaShow
Jul 2013
#57
In 1975, President Gerald Ford extended a multi-billion dollar loan package to
HardTimes99
Jul 2013
#81
The House of Representatives, on the other hand, is actively making things worse.
another_liberal
Jul 2013
#54
Maybe it would help if Obama would not sign any more let's-send-jobs-to-foreign-countries free-trade
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#55