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unlike sniveling cowardly Greenwald - Biden and Clinton stand by their Iraq War and Patriot Act [View all] Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 OP

Yeah, these true peoples have the courage of their misguided convictions to stand tall on them usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #1

if people going changing their minds just because they learned something or looked at something Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #3

Madness, that's what! Union Scribe Jul 2013 #5

He wrote a book noise Jul 2013 #2

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #4

Please warn of graphic images n/t hootinholler Jul 2013 #35

GOD DAMN IT! Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #36

you know in much of the world these are the scenes shown on the prime time nightly news Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #39

That blood was spilled in our name Generic Other Jul 2013 #43

K&R -- Brilliant. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #6

It is....nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #7

The Character Assassination Continues cantbeserious Jul 2013 #8

So shredding the constitution and standing by it, along with a fake war is a good thing? Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #9

It's a test of one's mettle. (spelling corrected) Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #12

Ahhh, brilliant sarcasm. I get it Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #13

not metal. mettle. eilen Jul 2013 #14

I stand corrected - (on the spelling) Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #15

Well, there WAS a good film about a piano ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2013 #16

well I think would have preferred it to "The Piano" Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #17

Obama can never, ever do any wrong. Got it. Even the Bush-sourced "patriot act" is good. Check. Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #10

it is getting harder and harder to tell these days Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #18

I thought they just agreed with Bush's war. But I see your point, admitting you were so sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #11

knr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #19

Biden and Clinton were elected to an office treestar Jul 2013 #20

Yes, being in elected office makes them much less responsible for things Fumesucker Jul 2013 #23

Nonsensical distinction whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #37

And they still accomplish more on the toilet than GG will AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #21

So in your opinion the measure of a man is how much he shits? bowens43 Jul 2013 #52

"I had not abandoned my trust in the Bush administration." ProSense Jul 2013 #22

Greenwald apologized. He was not an elected official who voted for the war. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #25

+! nt snappyturtle Jul 2013 #26

Lets not forget WHY they voted for it. One, they were lied to by JaneyVee Jul 2013 #28

Which is likely why Greenwald supported it (at first) whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #40

Lied to?! Puhleeze Carolina Jul 2013 #44

How can they not see the incredible hypocrisy and stupidity of attacking Greenwald on this? whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #38

Oh Greenwald changed his mind, did he? LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #33

Oh, SNAP! Efilroft Sul Jul 2013 #42

Wow. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #47

Your hypocrisy is that you support other war supporters and cheerleaders and yes voters Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #49

knr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #24

False. See video below: JaneyVee Jul 2013 #27

Role Call vote on Iraq War Resoltion - Delaware Joseph Biden (D): Yes Thomas Carper (D): Yes Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #29

Sure he voted for it, under false pretenses. The administration said JaneyVee Jul 2013 #30

does he agree or disagree with John Kerry that he would have voted for it anyway? Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #31

Then he was inexcusably STUPID Carolina Jul 2013 #41

And yet 23 Senators with the same case presented to them voted NO. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #45

Exactomundo. closeupready Jul 2013 #48

You didn't even need to assume WMDs to conclude that, btw. joshcryer Jul 2013 #62

Scott Ritter, Robert Fisk, Hans Blix, and suicided David Kelly dispute that. joshcryer Jul 2013 #60

Except that they WERE wrong. nt LWolf Jul 2013 #32

that's not excuse and no reason to admit it.. Do we want to be led by wimps who admit they Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #58

Maybe. LWolf Jul 2013 #65

Really? snappyturtle Jul 2013 #34

OMG, did the Symbionese Liberation Army get to you, too? closeupready Jul 2013 #46

no, they all over the place Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #50

So basically you believe that bowens43 Jul 2013 #51

that's what real men of principle would do. Did Stalin ever admit he was wrong? Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #57

I loved this thread. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #53

thank you , I appreciate that Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #54

You know you've lost the high ground in a debate... randome Jul 2013 #55

. You know you've lost the high ground in a debate... Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #56

Are you ignoring Glen Greenwalds message (NSA surveillance) AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #61

some people sometime try to use irony to make their point Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Jul 2013 #59

Clinton's weasely floor speech on the Iraq War Resolution: joshcryer Jul 2013 #64

An honest person admits when they are wrong. alarimer Jul 2013 #66

I gave you a rec for style points GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #67

Of course, being of the privileged class, they didn't risk facing rendition or other such things. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #68