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Douglas Carpenter

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41. oh absolutely!! If Snowden hadn't come forward there wouldn't be all this nonsense and carry on now

Tue Jul 30, 2013, 03:00 AM

Jul 2013

and members of Congress wouldn't be trying to clip the wings of the brave men and women of the clandestine services. We know Snowden is giving secrets to the Russians because - well we just know it because he's a bad person who hates America. - Enough said! He is not only being a traitor. He is being a rabble rouser and a trouble maker. Of course, when in the history of the world has a massive all knowing surveillance state ever posed a threat to the liberty of the citizens? Obviously they are only going to spy on bad guys. If that traitor Snowden hadn't stirred things up - the Congress and the media - to say nothing of the public wouldn't be talking about it now. And that would be so much better for everyone. And the surveillance service could get back to doing its job of keeping us free.

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Chomsky praises Snowden and condemns US hypocrisy [View all] Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 OP

I fucking LOVE this man! FirstLight Jul 2013 #1

Notice... Swiss news Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #2

The NSA apologists will surely have no trouble throwing Chomsky under the rhett o rick Jul 2013 #3

Chomsky has been under the bus Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #4

Just wait until he passes. Rethugs will try to bury him like Indiana governor did for Howard Zinn! cascadiance Jul 2013 #5

Absolutely. He upsets their denial bubbles. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #6

Oh, didn't you know, he's a racist teabagger! backscatter712 Jul 2013 #12

kick nt Federosky Jul 2013 #7

Chomsky continues to be an inspiration, and a very acute observer. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #8

K&R forestpath Jul 2013 #9

knr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #10

Every American needs to read and understand what Chomsky is saying here: cpwm17 Jul 2013 #11

Mission Creep and bigger budgets Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #13

Chomsky knows the deal. The fools will be here soon to denounce him. chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #14

Could these budgets of the MIC/DEA/ NSA complex etc effect poverty in the US Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #15

Congress is a charade. We have enough money to allow everyone to have free, quality health chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #17

I think they're scared to take him on here. reformist2 Jul 2013 #19

Perfectly said by Chomsky. No wonder he went under the bus so quickly. He tells the truth sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #32

K&R!! felix_numinous Jul 2013 #16

Interesting how the anti-Snowden crowd here dare not challenge the Chomsky! reformist2 Jul 2013 #18

I'm surprised. They're not completely stupid. Or the boss called them off. chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #21

They're all having birthday cake with the Prez right now, don'tcha know? Efilroft Sul Jul 2013 #22

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #20

K&R! KoKo Jul 2013 #23

The man has been a spot-on genius -- EVERY time I've heard him speak. MiddleFingerMom Jul 2013 #24

Look how the anti-Snowden crowd attacks Eugene Robinson, but not the Chomsky! reformist2 Jul 2013 #25

snowden is nothing but a traitor Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #26

Snowden is the kind of traitor you and your kind can only dream of being. - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #29

what a ridiculous post Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #34

Great Jeff Foxworthy Impression HangOnKids Jul 2013 #37

EXACTLY!! The price of freedom is a strong state with a strong surveillance apparatus. Only traitors Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #38

lol A+ for sarcasm F- for substance. Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #40

oh absolutely!! If Snowden hadn't come forward there wouldn't be all this nonsense and carry on now Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #41

once he is in their grasp hw has no choice Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #43

all we know for 100% certain is that the Congress, the media and the public would not be talking Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #45

one fact doesnt nullify another Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #46

we know for certain that he provoked a discussion that we would not be having now Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #47

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #48

I've asked this question so many times, but have yet to receive an answer. You referred to some sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #33

dude, in every poll taken majorities agree snowden is a criminal Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #36

You haven't answered my question. Do you have something to back up the claim made re sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #39

then you arent to be taken seriously Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #42

And we have people locked up for smoking pot, for years. You seem a bit sensitive about sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #44

Got to love Chomsky, but that could go further. joshcryer Jul 2013 #27

He's still going after all these years GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #28

Well yeah, sure, but everyone knows that he's just an Obama hating plant paid by the Kochs Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #30

DURec leftstreet Jul 2013 #31

what do you expect from a right-wing Republican shill like Chomsky? Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #35